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If Obama was not president because he wasn't sworn in yet, then certainly neither Biden nor Rice were president either since they hadn't sworn in.

Per the 20th amendment[1], the new president's term begins immediately after the old president's term ends. This means that Obama became president at 12:00, even without being sworn in. He couldn't "enter on the execution of his office" until he was sworn in, but he was nonetheless president.

[1] http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am20




> If Obama was not president because he wasn't sworn in yet, then certainly neither Biden nor Rice were president either since they hadn't sworn in.

The argument is that Rice was president due to the succession laws. I understand that this succession does not require swearing in. Then, as soon as Biden did swear in, at 12:01, he became acting President.


I agree. The constitutional lawyer was just blowing smoke.


Yeah, if this law professor were at all confident in his pronouncements he would publish his views somewhere where other law professors could see and critique them--not on some layman's Facebook page.


Furthermore, even if you buy that at 12:00 Bush and Cheney's terms had ended but Biden and Obama's had not begun, wouldn't the proper order of succession made Nancy Pelosi the president? I'm having trouble envisioning any interpretation which would have made Rice the president.


This is addressed in TFA:

(6) Neither Nancy Pelosi nor Robert Byrd actually resigned their seats in the Congress. Thus, neither of them qualified to become Acting President under the Presidential Succession Act. Plus, interbranch appointments might be unconstitutional anyhow. See Akhil Reed Amar and Vikram David Amar, Is the Presidential Succession Law Constitutional?, 48 Stan. L. Rev. 113 (1995); but see Howard Wasserman, Structural Principles and Presidential Succession, 90 Ky. L.J. 345 (2002).

furthermore, to the parent comment:

I suppose the obvious counterargument is that Secretary Rice also never took the Oath prescribed in Art. II, Sec. 1, cl. 8, and thus was no more qualified than Barack Obama or Joe Biden to act as President at 12:00 noon. But if Secretary Rice was not President from noon to 12:01, then who was?

Verdict: today is an interesting meatspace reminder to check your edge cases.


"Verdict: today is an interesting meatspace reminder to check your edge cases."

Actually, it's also a reminder that, like plentyoffish, a working system can ignore edge cases and be incredibly successful for unrelated reasons, and only a few people will complain about the failure at the edge. :)


Plus, if Rice was appointed President, I don't think that Obama could legally just reacquire his deserved Presidency. She would have to appoint a VP and whoever (the Congress?) would appoint someone to replace her.


If I read TFA correctly, Biden was sworn in privately earlier and thus was president. Rice wasn't though.


Biden was sworn in publicly, at 11:45am. Its the part where Joe Biden is talking right before he turns around, shakes Obama's hand, and kisses him on the cheek. (Super awesome).




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