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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life

They could figure out how to divvy up their 65 life sentences.

Why do they get to pay their way out of this?

> According to Kavanaugh, former McKinsey senior partner Martin Elling [2] "personally deleted various Purdue related electronic materials from his McKinsey laptop with the intent to obstruct future investigations."

Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsite. I find it hard to believe that the only copy was on his laptop.

From the tweet [2], which has a screenshot of an email presumably sent by Martin Elling, he looks to be directing everyone to start deleting criminal evidence.

> McKinsey's payment, which includes $2 million paid to the Virginia Medicaid Fraud Control Unit, settles federal civil and criminal charges against the firm and includes a "deferred prosecution" agreement. Under the civil settlement, McKinsey is not admitting liability. A copy of the deferred prosecution agreement was not publicly available at the time of publication.

Given the opioid deaths in 2022 alone, McKinsey should be dissolved and the responsible parties serving jail time.

Can someone explain how this [3] is presented as a win, when only money has changed hands. They paid a fee for aiding in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

Does this ruling now shield them from any criminal repercussions at the state level?

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/overdose-prevention/about/understanding-...

[2] https://x.com/CoruscaKhaya/status/1676330070472814593

Here is the original document referenced in the tweet,

https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/opioids/docs/#id=zhlp...

[3] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-...

*edit, found this

https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/wp-content/uploads/20... which outlines at which times various McKinsey employees directed people to delete evidence.




> Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsite. I find it hard to believe that the only copy was on his laptop.

Not defending anyone and maybe McKinsey is different but I have never had a corporate laptop with built-in backup. I am always left to figure that out on my own.


From what I can tell, it looks like they used Box to store the most incriminating stuff.

https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/wp-content/uploads/20...

Specifically

https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/opioids/docs/#id=skbm...

In an email

    from: Jeff Smith
    to: Amir Golan
    cc: Arnab Ghatak

> Amir - going forward it's absolutely essential for the team to only use Box for distribution of documents and all documents have to have appropriate legal disclaimers - at a minimum working draft. Please work with the team to implement ASAP.


So Arnab "Arnie" is facing 20 years [1] for destruction of evidence

But Martin Elling (very much his senior) can only get a maximum of 1 year [2] as per the plea deal.

> A former senior partner at McKinsey, Martin Elling, has also agreed to plead guilty to obstruction of justice for destroying records related to McKinsey's work for Purdue, according to court papers. He is scheduled to enter his plea on Jan. 10.

[1] https://www.globalindiantimes.com/p/mckinsey-opioid-122024

[2] https://www.reuters.com/legal/consulting-firm-mckinsey-pay-6...


Distribution of documents is not a system backup. I haven't used Box but if it is a distribution mechanism I suspect it is opt-in, as in you have to choose to distribute a document with it. You could still print or email the document, or use any other service. Box is just the mechanism by policy. The policy wouldn't even apply to documents that aren't distributed.


We use Box to store and share virtually everything, not because it is incriminating, but because sending email attachments is not a secure way to send sensitive data.


They 100% should be put in jail, if fines are the only deterrant then they just become cost-of-business and dont deter anything at all.


I've never worked anywhere that backed up laptops. Onedrive, fileshares, cloud storage, servers, sure. I would not want to try managing backups for devices that aren't guaranteed online 24/7. The odd failed server backup is enough work, now apply that to 2000 laptops. Fuck that, save your shit on our backed up infra.


They did, or at least Some folders (way before iCloud)

During a project, the live documents were on the teams laptops (local encryption). Only key deliverables were uploaded to servers, mostly at the end of the project.

Lots of cruft (client emails, unedited data, etc) stayed behind in people’s laptops.

Your laptop was stolen? No worries, under 24 hrs you get a new one in your hotel with roughly whenever you left off…

PS McK was handing out 3G - 4G PCMIA cards forever (almost 20 y ago), you were only most of the time…


This is just disgusting. Money is the root of much evil.


Just remember, it’s never okay for the people to take matters into their own hands. They just need to get out there and vote! Our elected representatives will ensure that justice is served. If they don’t, that just means you didn’t donate enough to the Good Guys.




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