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Paul Graham: The Art of Funding a Startup (amazon.com)
227 points by tangcius on Oct 10, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 54 comments



I should have done a blog post to explain what's up but I've become so obsessed with one part of Mixergy that I let this (and other things) slide.

pg knows about this. It was done by a YC company. My site wasn't scraped. This is more than the interview.

Also, entrepreneurs like pg are heroes. Till I'm old and unable to move, you should expect to see me experimenting with ways to get their stories out. If I knew how to draw comic books, you'd see my interviews in the comics section of amazon too.


My first reaction to this was, "OMG, a new book from pg! Why didn't I hear about this before"? The comments here cleared up things for me. I think having the word "interview" in big letters somewhere on the cover would be less misleading.

You do explain things somewhat it in the Product Description, but in a very PR way "hold the answers, etc." without mentioning the book is based on the interview. Some people here say that it's just the interview? Can you clarify if it is more than that and if that what have you added?

In addition to the blog post, I think you should have a better description on Amazon.


SmarterComics has converted quite a few business / entrepreneur books into comics:

http://smartercomics.com/


+1 for comic books about entrepreneurship. Only found your ebook when I randomly searched for your name in Amazon.


Hehe you should get SubStack from browserling to do some quirky comics for you, then pkrumins can publish the books ;)


All - just want to re-affirm Andrew's points and provide some more clarification - we're the publisher behind the eBook, and we did partnered with Andrew/Mixergy to do it.

In short, we work with domain/subject-matter experts to publish high-quality eBooks. Some we create ourselves, some we work with publishers who already have great content (eg, Mixergy).

Since we're a startup there's still a lot that we need to improve, but one thing we're doing is making the books more interactive, and for PG's book we'll be adding video clips from the interview. Unfortunately Kindle doesn't have an easy way to provide existing customers an update, but if you did buy the book, please email me (kevin@hyperinkpress.com) and I'll share it with you.

Also, if you have knowledge on any topic that people would pay to learn more about, and want to create a beautiful, high-quality eBook to share that knowledge, please reach out to me - we're actively recruiting authors. A big thing of ours is sharing a lot of the content for free, it's not purely altruistic since that's great for building loyalty and traffic too. Thanks!

Kevin, Founder of Hyperink

PS Right now hyperink.com has almost nothing on it, we'll be launching a marketplace for our eBooks and our authors in the next 2 weeks


Considering that you're the publisher, what is your response to this review? http://www.amazon.com/review/RMK171BE5NOQ1/ref=cm_cr_dp_perm... The third and fourth points, specifically, seem to contradict your claim that you publish "beautiful, high-quality eBook[s]."


Just so you know, I think the link on your website to your author application form is wrong (it goes to https://hyperink.wufoo.com/forms/hyperink-author-application..., which says "page not found").


Also, thanks a ton for the feedback - we're updating the product description on Nook and Kindle so that it's clear that the content is from Andrew's interview.


Do you also publish to the iTunes bookstore?


Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like Andrew is taking an old interview, converting it into an eBook, adding the interviewee as an "author", and selling it?


If it wasn't with PG's explicit consent, this would be rather dishonest. If that panned out I'd be very wary about conducting an interview with Andrew..

I'm probably being overly cynical, but I'd love to see either Mr. Warner or PG clarify that separate permission was granted for this ;(


It's fine with me.


Thanks for clarifying. I should probably have assumed things were OK, rather than thinking negatively.


Just took a quick look at the comments on Amazon and the book seems to be a disappointment for most, mostly due to the editing. So, why are you fine with this? If anything, this book seems to devalue your brand.


I'm sure he asked PG for permission.

Hyperink, the publisher, is a YC company, which may have been part of PG's incentive for doing it.


You're probably right, and I certainly hope so. I respect Andrew. He generally does decent interviews, and I think he's likely a good guy over all.

I do think he tends to push the boundries of what's socially acceptable somewhat, which is why I'm questioning. I'm sure I just have a somewhat cynical perspective, forgive me.

I'd still love to see it stated on-the-record, as it were, however.


I bought the book for Kindle and it's just an interview. Since the publisher is a YC company and Andrew is a cool guy, I don't feel bad giving up $5 for this.


What would Andrew have to gain by doing anything shifty here? Nothing.

His reputation in this business is worth way more than he could ever generate selling an e-book.

I respect Andrew's work enough to know he did his diligence before-hand. Namely, working with and having PG's permission.


I bought it and it looks terrible on my Kindle, some sentences repeat themselves and there is a "Paul Graham" string shown 3 times per page. The about Paul Graham text was actually behind his picture, so overall quality of this is extremely low.


Here's the table on contents in case anyone wants to get a better idea what they're buying: http://i.imgur.com/pzjj7.png The eBook is around 20 pages long.

In other news, Kindle.app only allows copy & pasting 33 words at a time... hence the screenshot.


"Foreward"? Is that on purpose?


Highly desirable content (from PG)...check

Supporting someone (Andrew) who provides a huge service to startups...check

Easy-to-consume format for Kindle...check

Easy-to-consume price...check

Shut up and take my money.


I watched the interview, which was great. I wonder, does this add to the interview, or just break it down?

I wish the cover listed the author...it took me a minute to figure it wasn't a book by PG.


Wait, Paul Graham didn't write this? Do not want.


Amazon is listing both Andrew Warner and PG as co-authors.


"It turns out", the secret is ... Paul Graham?


Why is there no dead tree version?

As much as everyone here loves their e-readers, some of us still find hardcopies more enjoyable. I, for one, won't be purchasing for this reason only.


I'm genuinely curious why you prefer a paperback, could you elaborate? Also, wanted to ask: have you tried the Kindle app on your Mac/PC and mobile device yet?


I can answer for myself:

• I read books when I want to escape computers, the internet and the distractions they bring. That's part of what I love about them.

• I don't own an ebook reader or a tablet. I don't have any plans to purchase one. I have no desire to read a book on my phone, and the only books I read on my laptop are technical books with no real value as literature.

• I like physical collections of things. I've never bought an eBook, nor music, nor movies to be downloaded. I have hundreds of CDs and vinyl records and around a thousand paper books. Books aren't simply things to read, but a physical representation of my life's history: virtually everything I've been interested in in my life is displayed on my bookshelves.

• I can give a book away. I do that a lot. Two walls of my living room are covered in bookshelves. When I'm talking to someone and there's a book I think they should read, I give it to them. I've bought my favorite books half a dozen times, because I want to have them around to give away.

• I mostly read books away from home, in places that I don't want to whoop out an expensive device (because it makes it a target for theft, because I think it looks dorky) -- parks, the subway, cafés. This is connected to the first point -- I like getting away from the distractions of the internet and being somewhere where I can just read.

• I can throw books in my bag when I'm headed to places where there's a high propensity for me to lose or have my bag stolen. Catching the subway on the way to a concert? If I lose my book that's $10 down the tubes, not $100.


All good points, but I thought I'd point out that...

> I read books when I want to escape computers, the internet and the distractions they bring. That's part of what I love about them.

... the Kindle is actually fairly good on this count. Checking email on it is so clunky as to not be a temptation at all. It doesn't make noises or have alerts, and it has a very long batter life. So if you get into a book, the fact that you're reading it on a device does fade into the background, leaving you to concentrate on the content.


I concur, kindle.app and variants, kindle fire, all have nothing to do with the real Kindle, which just a book, slightly more convenient.

Like GP, I also buy, collect, give paper books, and have a wall of them in our living room, including all Balzac in a 18xx edition. But when I travel I take my Kindle instead of spending one hour pondering which book to take.


I would recommend trying out the Kindle app. You could download the app in Chrome and read out of one of your tabs. The books overall are a lot cheaper; you don't need a Kindle device; more of the money goes directly to the author.

You still have all the same benefits you mentioned above, minus the ability to turn off distractions:

• You don't need to own an ebook reader or tablet. Amazon's Kindle App is free and works on practically anything: Mac, PC, iPhone, even a Chrome plugin if you don't like having a desktop app.

• You keep a physical collection in your reader just as you do a bookcase. It's not the exact same thing, but that's something I noticed recently: hardly anyone visits me at my apartment, but I am often going to meet people at cafes and with me I bring my laptop or phone, and on those I have my entire collection of books.

• You can loan a Kindle book to a friend on Amazon, and it's free.

• You can read on any device, and you almost always will have your cell phone with you. I usually do most of my reading on the BART or CalTrain, or waiting in lines.

• You don't need to carry a bag or remember any books, if you have a digital collection they're always with any of your devices. If your device is stolen, you still have your digital book collection.


I sense some intentional stubbornness here.

Just because you don't invite people over to your place doesn't meant that I don't. In fact, I do, regularly.

Also, if you put the pieces together, the fact that you have a device around that you're comfortable reading on most of the time doesn't mean that I do. My phone is a terrible device for reading on (as is my laptop, honestly), and the only one that I have around as often as I have a book in my bag.

Giving someone a book has an emotional connotation that loaning someone something on an electronic service does not. That may change in future generations, but for me, and my ilk (most of whom also don't read books on electronic devices), giving someone a physical book means far more than loaning them something with an internet service.

I have no problem that in your social environment that Kindle books are superior to physical books. But you said that you can't understand why anyone else would prefer physical books, and it seems the simple explanation is that, well, everyone isn't you.


I edited out some of my previous comments where I mentioned "I don't understand why people still like books" before you replied. What I mean is "I like the e-book experience so much that I'd be surprised if most people who switched over didn't feel the same way." It's a subjective thing to say, but I've been a heavy user of both paperbacks and now e-books. If you try the Kindle reader out, you might be pleasantly surprised by the experience (or maybe not, but the main thing I was trying to understand from this is whether the OP had tried it and disliked it, having a preference for paperbacks).


You are ignoring most of the reasons wheels gave you. He said an e-book is harder for sharing, cannot be stored in a physical location and requires a theft prone device that makes the owner look nerdy. He also said he prefers the sensory experience of a book to that of a device. Your evangelism addresses only the last point and your premise - wheels is unfamiliar with modern e-readers - appears without basis.


Sorry, I think I'm coming off as an evangelist when the reason I replied specifically to wheels is because I know him personally and it was intended as a personal recommendation to try out since I had many of the same complaints as him a few months ago. He saw the earlier version of my comment, and I edited that out before he wrote his response (and my first thought was the wrong one, and not really worded the way I intended it to be, so he called me out on that and he was right).

I'm not trying to sell anyone on it, I'm more interested in seeing if people switch back after they've tried it. That would be more interesting to me.


Please don't edit out your post, now GP tone looks overreacted.


Your last two points resonate.

Whatever book I'm currently reading gets carried around with me quite a bit. It's thrown (and left) in the car, on my desk at work. It is not exceptionally well taken care of. It's just a cheap paperback, in most cases; losing it won't matter much. There's a kind of cognitive tax to carrying around something you don't want to lose or have to be careful with.

Besides, I can only read one book at a time, so the ability to access any book other than the one I'm currently reading doesn't offer much value.


I personally prefer physical books because I really fully own them. I love the Kindle experience, and if I could buy books in a DRM-free format that guaranteed that I'll be able to read on every device I could want forever, I can loan them out/resell them, etc. I'd do it (and I have--eg. Pragmatic Programmers books).

But being locked into whatever devices Amazon decides to support and not having some of the freedom isn't ok with me.

There also seems to be no quality control on Kindle books. I'm now pretty much afraid to buy any book that doesn't offer a sample of the first few pages. I almost bought Dante's Inferno on Kindle because it was ~3x cheaper, but then I downloaded the sample. The print version of this book has the Italian on the left side pages and the English on the right side. They seem to have just run that version of it through some Kindle-ifier, meaning that there was one print-page worth of Italian, followed by one print-page worth of English, repeating. Just an awful experience.


While I was a kid I was going almost everyday to my father's bookshelves and I was browsing random books: science fiction novels, books about sports and their rules, encyclopedias, novels, poetry, whatever I could find. I am sure that this experience made me love knowledge more and give me a also an additional bond with my father. Maybe people do not realize that yet, but giving to a kid a GB of ebooks is not the same.


Didn't this site have a no-affiliate-link policy?


Whether it does or not, I'm flagging it for that.


It seems to be a normal link now.


About Hyperink, the publisher: [...]

There's no writing required and it's a unique opportunity to build your own brand and earn royalties.

No writing. That's disruptive to traditional publishing.


Not really. Ghostwriting is a well-established phenomenon.


Its awesome when things like this are put out into the community. I hope it gets very specific. Paul's experiences are most similar to where an early stage startup will have. A couple years back most of the information on this topic glossed over angel investing, which was the first step an entrepreneur needed to know about. Without understanding how to get past that part, knowing how to raise a series A didn't matter.


Looks like something in between a blog post and a real book. Are these Hyperink books organized like real books or just transcriptions of interviews?


No preview? Only Kindle? I'd be curious to know if this eBook/MixergyNotes touches on funding ventures other than just YC.


It is also available on B&N in ePub format. There seems to be a free sample as well, didn't look at it though.

I noticed one funny thing while browsing the B&N site, in the "People who bought this also bought" section : http://imgur.com/ZFAwY :)


This is obviously a specialty book. Small audience. He probably should have charged more.


PDF download link plox


I've noticed a lot of crap e-books in Amazon lately that are comprised of Wikipedia or about.com style articles and selling for a few dollars. Some of them appear to be computer generated scrapings from PDFs, or some other unreliable method.

Make a killing publishing individual Wikipedia articles as ebooks...check.

I'm wondering:

1) Does the publisher have a right to this material, and to charge for it?

2) Is this material available elsewhere on the web?

3) Does Paul Graham or anyone else get compensated?

I would encourage anyone considering buying this sort of thing to know the answers to these questions before their purchase.


Always find PG's talks and blog posts engaging....might be a good read.




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