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This is "the same verse" as what? Bundling IE with Windows? The same as making proprietary technologies on open ones? The same as strongarming Gary Kildall? No, no it isn't "the same". Anti M$ comment is just whiny.

This behaviour is part of SmartScreen, it's publicly known about, documented, optional. It's explicitly called out somewhere - when you install a new Windows 10 and it takes you through the privacy settings, there's mention of sending browsing data to Microsoft if you agree - https://1re4xlezju-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/upload... - and that's been a warning in the IE first run dialog since before IE 11 - http://www.herongyang.com/Windows/IE_10_SmartScreen_Filter.j...

> When checking web content, data about the content and your device is sent to Microsoft, including the full web address of the content.

https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement#mainsec...

SmartScreen for Windows Defender will send filenames, hashes and download locations to Microsoft as well.

This is less bad than "like" buttons tracking you around the web in an undocumented and not-optional way with no user benefit.

Is this so different to Google quietly signing you into Chrome when you sign into a Google website, and Chrome sync'ing your browser history to Google by default and sending URLs of pages you visit from the Omnibox?[1] Or "Sends URLs of some pages that you visit to Google, when your security is at risk" from the Chrome options? To Facebook scraping call records and SMS texts from Android devices for years? [2] Ubuntu with opt-out system data gathering in 18.04, and wants to gather data to track "relative popularity of apps"[3], or Steam gathering data about what games you play[4]. Would you believe, Wonderful helpful Google has every email you send or receive through a GMail account or to one, but Evil Microsoft has every email you send through/to an Office 365 account. Wonderful Google and Amazon could access any VM on their clouds, so could evil Microsoft on Azure - except Microsoft built Shielded VMs into Hyper-V to protect the VM from compromised hosts, and to keep secrets in the VM which host administrators cannot access. [5]

Tech companies spy on people for money, isn't as anti Microsoft an idea though, is it?

[1] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/privacy/whitepaper.htm...

[2] https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-hi...

[3] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-data-collection-o...

[4] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/07/steam-data-leak-revea...

[5] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/security/gua...




It's so weird to come in with a defense of "this is no worse than this long list of horrible things other companies have done, and other horrible things this company has done before!"

I completely agree with you, this is no worse than many of those things.


That's not what I'm defending. I'm attacking "same old Microsoft" as a content-free, /inaccurate/, /ill targetted/ and /boring/ comment.

"Downvoters should explain" well that "defense" is my explanation. It's not the "same old" behaviour, it's different, what it is the same as .. is other current day, much loved technology companies.

Except for specific ways it's better in Microsoft's favour - this is more explicit and easier to opt-out of than Google Analytics, Doubleclick (owned by Google) or Google+ social media tracking beacons, for one, or "talking to someone who uses gmail" which is super frustrating, for another.




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