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So Model S Plaid can do 0-60 in 1.98s provided sticky VHT substance on the track. Same stuff used for other drag racers, super- and hypercars to get the required road friction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite

Without VHT:

"Once ready and in its cheetah stance, the Model S Plaid's launch is drama-free, even without the added advantage of VHT. The electric car accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in just 2.07 seconds, more than 0.2 second quicker than our previous record holder."

Based on this, what NorwegianDude suggested that it doesn't come even near to that acceleration is just false.


Engineering Explained did a good video on this, specifically mentioning rollout:

> […] No, Tesla's Model S Plaid won't hit 60 mph in under 2 seconds. In this video we'll discuss rollout, Tesla's actual 0-60 time, 0-60 theory, and what today's theoretical limit on 0-60 mph is. Watch to learn more!

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yigpPSu_o

More on the topic:

> It's called a one-foot rollout and it's used in testing for all major car magazines. Here's what it is and why it's used.

* https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32681/how-t...

* https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a18202575/the-importan...

Sometimes it is there and sometimes not, so it's important to know how test was done:

> Our results will now include the industry standard 1-foot rollout before the clock starts on acceleration runs.

* https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration...


Same article, first thing: "we can confirm the 2.0-second 0-60 barrier remains unbroken. Unless, that is, you write your own rules."

"Plaid accelerates from 0-60 mph in 2.28 seconds"

So which one is it? Defenitly not 0-60 mph in 1.98.

0.29 seconds off is a huge amount. It's exponentially harder the lower you go, so I'd say that it's not even close.


Roll-out is standard my dude. So is testing at drag strips. Next you're going to point out that a tesla accelerating on the beach gets to 60mph in 11 seconds and therefore Elon is lying.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30085446/acceleration...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/motor-trend-testing/


Many magazines use rollout and different surfaces. But pretty much every car manufacturer displays their acceleration numbers without excluding rollout or using a prepped surface. The dodge deamon is the exception here because it is designed for drag racing.

Tesla is interesting because they selectively include or exclude the rollout in their acceleration numbers. For their slower (but still very fast) models they include the rollout, and for their faster ones they exclude it, artificially increasing the gap between their models. Not sure why.


> The car is stated to do 0-60 in 1.99 seconds. Does it do that? No, not even close.

The MotorTrend article suggest that it is actually quite close.



What an unbelievably privileged thing to say.



let?


We could elect people who choose to tax the rich


Pretty disappointing to see the reaction this has received in this thread.


Keep in mind there are a lot of sour grapes when it comes to Bitcoin. Critics have had so many chances to buy in, and Bitcoin price and popularity continues to grow.


I get people being upset about speculation events, and I'm fine with that. What I find upsetting is the FUD that is spread. Inferring that people who use it are criminals and such.

It's interesting because if a congressional bill comes up to ban encryption and uses FUD about "save the children" and "anyone who uses encryption is a criminal" HN is quick to notice and call bullshit. But then in other situations, like this one, many resort to the same rhetoric =/


Crabs in a bucket


Not much if Toyota can't compete on price. Range has not been an issue since 2015, and the marginal increase in consumer demand won't go up much if a $150k 500 mile electric hits the market.

The real issue for electric is that a 300 mile electric costs more than $35k because the world wide battery production capacity is limited.

If solid state batteries are easier to produce and the price comes down faster than lithium ion then there might be a crossover point by 2030. Until then, this probably means cooler high end sports cars (formula E?)


what does YADIW mean?


"You are doing it wrong", the first and last thing any scrum believer will say to someone for whom it does not work.


And in a great many cases, when you dig into the details, it turns out that they are - in fact - doing it wrong. Or at least blaming scrum for things that scrum does not actually entail. Or blaming "agile" for things that are 100% contrary to both the letter and spirit of the agile manifesto.


I think it stands for You Are Doing It Wrong.


YADIW = You Are Doing It Wrong.


New construction is more needed?


Housing vs model 3s?


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