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> If solar/wind/batteries/nuclear/hydro/whatever is better than oil, and there are high tariffs, the result will be onshore production of those technologies

Better along what metric? In a market, the axis is going to be cost which tariffs impact


Chinese solar panels being cheaper is not "better technology" which is what I was responding to – that's just China producing things cheaper, for a variety of reasons.

If solar panels in general are a better tech (by whatever metric), then tariffing chinese solar panels and not subsidizing oil should result in more American solar panels being produced and beating out oil.


But Chinese solar companies do have the best products. Longi ships panels with 25.4% efficiency today. First solar's best is 19.7%. That is a multiple generation gap. And longi is on track to go commercial tandem cells that have over 32% efficiency. There is no reason to choose First solar over longi in free competition. First solar has market share entirely due to non-market barriers, like tariffs, non market access, political connections, unfair subsidies.


Is LONGi "free competition"? They haven't been given a leg up by the CCP in any way?


The only leg up ccp gave is providing the consumer market for solar, and just let all solar players brawl in the market. And the government standards kept going up to force manufacturers improve their products.

The extremely tough competition in Chinese market meant they worked extremely hard. First Solar would not have survived if they are in the same competition in China.

And did the Chinese stole IP from Americans that Americans don't even have? What does it take for people to understand Chinese people are people too, they are just like you, living and breathing human beings. No one is inferior, no one is dumber. People can be as just as capable.

I can also say industrial policy will fail. The primary reason Chinese companies, like solar and EVs, are where they are now is because extreme hard work and competition. The best thing happened to Chinese EV industry is inviting Tesla into the market, and everyone tried to create a more competitive product and leapfrog Tesla. Westerners say Chinese ppl don't like foreign companies and are nationalist is brainwashed by western media. Domestic brands are considered inferior, Tesla hold the prestige. But as companies are coming up with more leapfrogging products they are changing people's perceptions and mindshare. The biggest thing for domestic car companies they seem to successfully transformed Chinese people's perceptions of Chinese brands. People are no longer mindless envy international brands. If you seen how hard they worked, you will appreciate. They make Elon musk's hard work look easy. They won it fair and square. And they are not against just Tesla, in luxury segment, they are against BWM, Mercedes, Porsche. In mainstream, Ford, GM, Toyota. Decades of brand prestige and reputations.

and first solar is definitely being propped up by the US government. Longi's products can be more expensive than first solar's and there is still no reason to choose them. It just a better product


Why do you think the Chinese domestic market is more competitive than the US domestic market? Do Americans not also like having the best solar panels?


It's problematic for a company if they have to announce their EOL plans on product announcement to get interest from customers. Might as well not exist as a company at that point


It's problematic for a company to have EOL plans not because people will assume they will go out of business, but because they might not be able to actually adhere to those EOL plans resulting in a much larger mess than what would have happened if they stayed silent.


It's bad, but I'm not sure it's that bad. In B2B land, loads of contracts have a code-in-escrow clause just in case key people die or the company goes under. One of the key attractions of Open Source is that if the people building it die or don't want to support the tool anymore, you can keep going yourself.

This would not be that different, right?


What's going to happen to all software updates and remote services if Tesla goes bankrupt (or just deprecated) ?


Presumably whichever auto manufacturer buys Tesla will issue an update to make your dashboard display a Ford logo (e.g.).


> Due to yesterday’s fire in the Emerald Hills area, the main Stanford campus lost the power supplied by PG&E’s main transmission line to the campus. PG&E is providing a limited supply of power through a secondary line, but it falls far short of the normal needs of the campus. This limited supply is being used to maintain cooling for the hospital and other critical infrastructure on campus


Physical pentesting, performed by one M. Nature.


PG&E should have paid the forests in bitcoin to not ignite.


Now I'm thinking its a good idea to quiz developers on the first 10 lines of some arbitrary Makefile


It's in the company values - "Open company, no bullshit" and "Don't fuck the customer". When you know the company is Australian it makes more sense.


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