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I'm not one to write negative reviews of open source tech. Typically, everyone has skin in the game for one reason or the other, and diversity in tech is positively great.

But Mesosphere DC/OS is purely advertising and marketing driven.

Their "Docker support" simply means they use normal Mesos worker processes to shell out to the Docker CLI across a cluster. They tightly wrap Hashicorp Vault and label it their own solution. Marathon has terrible support for security and application deployments geared toward enterprise teams. Hell, deployments can write over each other's network volumes and setting IAM roles can be sniffed straight out of unencrypted HTTPS headers. Don't get me started with Minuteman, Mesos DNS, meshing IPTables rules, and the hundreds of hacks around missing IP-per-container/network virtualization that even Solaris has had for the past 20 years (Crossbow anyone?).

The only thing people want right now is AWS in private/hybrid cloud. All the big movers are getting off AWS. If not, they're either too small to matter or are positioning their "cloud partnership" as a buy-out to Ma'Amazon.


Almost all of this is out of date. Did you try DC/OS a long time ago, maybe?

> Their "Docker support" simply means they use normal Mesos worker processes to shell out to the Docker CLI across a cluster.

This hasn't been true for quite some time now: http://mesos.apache.org/documentation/latest/container-image...

> hundreds of hacks around missing IP-per-container/network virtualization

DC/OS does have network virtualization and IP-per-container: https://dcos.io/docs/1.9/networking/virtual-networks/ip-per-...

Also, what's an unencrypted HTTPS header?


Oh man there are decrypted HTTPS headers? I can stop using Wireshark then!

https://jimshaver.net/2015/02/11/decrypting-tls-browser-traf...


Holy moly, that is a helpful link. I had been doing it the old-fashioned way that used the server key. It's so great that browsers added support for logging session keys.


IP-per-container is a thing in DC/OS. I don't recommend using it. What's wrong with Minuteman? You can disable it if you want.


The only thing people want right now is AWS in private/hybrid cloud

So, Azure then. Is there really a mass migration underway?


Maybe in the future, but right now there is no clear way to manage a collection of random on premise Windows VM's, which is what many enterprises have, with the full Azure toolset.


I know a lot of designers that will love and support this product.


If I charged my clients $19.99 a month for something like this they'd laugh at me and hire someone else.


Then you have the clients no one else wants (maybe that's why you have that username?). You can keep them.

Smart people go after customers willing to pay more.

Actually, I have some old cheap clients I fired some time ago... Should I send them your way? They need someone to yell at and then laugh at when the cost of their needs are quoted.


You are totally right, my clients do want to pay more for this kind of thing. BTW, your penis is huge.


^ yikes.


All with a thing called Round Robin Database, a database format built for temporal data and used by every graphing solution known to the IT world.


I'm sure this will make tons of money and will be amazingly useful as a hip tool for those developers we all know. But honestly the rest of us build this kind of stuff into our company dashboards without thinking twice. Where it belongs, in the hands of an internal team who can share the monitoring of more than $20 worth of "snitches".


You fail to take into account the small team, whose only objective - or at least that which consumes 99.9% of the brain share - is getting a product out the door and keeping the user-facing part of it running.


Relevant username.


If supporting, contributing and deploying to open source software makes me cheap than so be it. I'm ecstatic at the chance to share that technology with my clients and to help them give it back where applicable.

I hope your endeavors continue to make you happy with your means as they do mine.


Dear Mister Obvious,

Every marketing team ever has created hype. Ever.


Right. And when Apple creates hype, people for some reason buy into it. In droves.

I don't understand why so many people blame Apple for this.


  > people for some reason buy into it
It's not just "some" reason. They have one of the best marketing departments in the world who do an excellent job.

  > I don't understand why so many people blame Apple for this.
I'm blaming Apple for doing a damn good job of marketing their products.


You really should have put a mailing list on this page. I'm sure a lot of people are interested in keeping updated.


Instead of focusing on the pull request maybe we should think about better vulnerability trajectories. Next time don't make a pull request. Just fork the project, add some dumb feature someone will want or need, then leave your fork out there on Github. Morons will pull it down and use it without ever checking the code.


Support? Pretending something isn't an issue? Must be entirely unique to this technology company alone.


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