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It's poorly explained in the game, but you can increase the amount of machine health by researching "Improvements". One also has to keep track of the machine strength which is only visible in the bottom right corner when hovering over the machine. It will deteriorate over time, and at some points the machines will have to be replaced.


I randomly started playing through Theme Hospital, and I'm now almost at the last level.

I must say: in general it hasn't held up very well. There are so many mechanics that are extremely poorly explained that are fundamental to the game. E.g. epidemics and earthquake/machine strength. Trying to micromanage all of the gameplay systems that are quite annoying to begin with doesn't end up being .. fun.

As a child I'm sure I liked it because it was goofy and approachable, but playing through it now I doubt I ever got through the levels where managing epidemics is important.


was that the old theme hospital or CorsixTH

about a year ago I got most of the way through CorsixTH before realising a few things didn't behave as they did in the original, namely epidemics

I went back and completed the original instead


It's the original TH.

Epidemics is a pretty bad gameplay system. Especially considering patients going between buildings automatically fails it; which makes it almost completely broken. On some maps buying some particular buildings is a complete foot-gun due to this.


Curious what you prefer about the original epidemics. As a rule we try to balance quality of life improvements with faithful implementation and lean towards faithful when a change is controversial.

For our own protection we do not reverse engineer though so the goal is similar to what can be observed and fun to play.


Just wait until you find the fax machine mechanic xD


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Sure they spent it on Norwegian people, but at the same time they're still enabling an unsustainable way of life for the rest of Europe. E.g. the gas and oil-dependence of Germany.


The real interesting part about Clippy is not the cartoony art, but the fact that it actually would have been helpful if the project managers of office would not have gutted it: http://erichorvitz.com/lum.htm


Writing emails and compiling documents in Word seems like very "professional use-cases" to me.


It takes a lot of time for people to warm up to a new device type. Probably makes sense to get a premium version out to make people yearn for it and build an ecosystem, and then create a more palatable version for mainstream use.


> People said the M1 Pros were overpriced

Yeah but most people aren't paying for those: their employers are.

I don't think many employers are going to buy such an expensive tool.


What? Millions of people have personal laptops that are M1+ Macbooks. For people who can afford it and aren't Linux people, why would you buy anything else?

(well some people have issues with buying things from Apple and I don't blame them but Microsoft is busy making Windows as unappealing as possible so Apple wins for me)


Do you really need me to spell it out for you?

  * Can't afford it
  * Don't like MacOS
  * Don't like the hardware
  * Want a repairable device
  * Want a upgradeable device
Etc, etc. Plenty of reasons.


Have lots of layers, accountants, execs, and a few surgeons in the extended family, especially on my wife's side. Most of them use Macs as their personal computers, and some of them have already upgraded to M1 and M2 mac pros.

Lot's rich people out there, bro. Some of them probably suffered to adapt to Mac OS after years of using Windows, but since every new version of Windows is now a different OS from the UX perspective, they all adapted themselves to Mac OS, because they wouldn't want to be seen in an airport lounge or an expensive coffee answering their emails in plastic Samsung book.

Also, most people never upgraded their laptops, this is simply not an important selling point, and even less in the premium segment. Repairability? From the user's perspective, It is repairable, they have Apple Care, and they drop their broken laptop in a counter, and sometime later they collect a functioning laptop. And why they wouldn't like the hardware? The CPU is fast, it hardly ever heats enough to spin the fans, the screen is great, the keyboard now is good enough, and the touchpad is still probably the best one on the market.

Your plenty of reasons don't seem very solid to me.


So you're surrounded by rich people, and thus my reasons don't seem to apply? OK.


This whole thread is a disagreement to

> Yeah but most people aren't paying for those: their employers are.

which is wrong, and you seemed to not be aware of that. Your reasons are all arguments why _some_ people don't buy them, and they're obviously correct, but lots of people also do buy them.


Er. I didn't try to argue everyone buys one. Just that 'most are bought by employers', as though people won't pay for them themselves, is obviously silly .


When do you think we'll get the first repairable and upgradable VR headset?


Who doesn’t like macos? Like it is objectively better than windows, and is able to actually work decently without set up pain (like linux)

Who doesn’t like the hardware? Now that the butterfly keyboard and dongles are gone, what is there to hate?

What is unrepairable about macbooks? It’s not an iphone, i ve replaced hard drives, fans and other components on a macbook countless times.

Who really wants an upgradable laptop? I’d give you desktop perhaps, but with laptops i struggle to see the usecase

The things you don’t actually mention, that certain software doesn’t run on mac (ironically used by mechies and industrial designers).


I like Apple. I'm find this new release quite cool. But you fanboys are a bit much. Sigh.. guess I'm going to do this.

> Who doesn’t like macos? Like it is objectively better than windows, and is able to actually work decently without set up pain (like linux)

Not really objectively better any more, no. With WSL2 developing on Windows is actually pretty darn great. It's the best of both worlds: first party support of most applications and devices that I care about, and a really good OS for development.

> Who doesn’t like the hardware?

Overall Macbooks are almost unbeatable with e.g. the screens or sound for instance. But I still find the port selection to be baffling. It's been many, many years since the release of USB-C and I still need USB-A ports.

I also really do not like the sharp edges on the new Macbooks. They're visually appealing, sure. But if I'm on a train and they're cutting into my wrists it's not great.

> What is unrepairable about macbooks? It’s not an iphone, i ve replaced hard drives, fans and other components on a macbook countless times.

Aha, please try "replacing your hard drive" in your new Macbook.

Also the attitude and track record of Apples behavior towards repair shops is abysmal.

> Who really wants an upgradable laptop? I’d give you desktop perhaps, but with laptops i struggle to see the usecase

You just said you have "replaced hard drives, fans and other components on a macbook countless times" so I struggle a bit with this one.

In general it's a good idea to make devices last longer. Y'know, with the planet being almost being on fire since we're over-consuming? No?


I promise i am not an apple fangirl. I am trying to be objective here.

I’m not claiming that windows is somehow “unusable”. Obvs not. But I can’t think of any beef anyone can have with mac os except that some software doesn’t run on it. But I don’t think this falls under the umbrella of “don’t like the os”.

Re: hardware. Again objectively apple has the nicest hardware. That doesn’t mean “perfect” for every user scenario, but I just can’t imagine someone who objectively prefers a chromebook to a macboo because of hardware. I could imagine that during the butterfly keyboard era though.

Re: repairability. You got me there i have not replaced shit in my new laptop. But i have replaced the hard drive and the screen housing on my 2015 macbook it was no more difficult than any ikea assembly.

My 2015 macbook still works totally fine with almost daily use. I recently donated my 2009 imac and it’s probably at the point when it’s unacceptable for any kind of professional use. But in all seriousness how long do you expect a computer to last? I don’t know the answer to that tbh, but I do think that macs are better in terms of longevity than other hardware


I believe all Macs are fully recyclable with very little waste in the process. Repairability comes at a cost that most customers don't want to pay (any one of: more $$, heavier, thicker, more prone to breakage, etc...). In the end these are devices that cost about the same as a couch, last a few years, and then are meant to be recycled for raw materials that go back into a more efficient device.


I use Windows daily for work, and it's like going back in time 20 years. Just look at the quality of icons.


I don't like Macos. Windows without games and Linux without deep customisation, variety of choice, and visibility. It's not bad, just useless to me. It only runs well on very specific, overpriced, unrepairable hardware too. Lame.

The hardware is okay, but overrated, there are far sturdier laptops, especially for protecting the display.

The only macbook I ever had had soldered on RAM. Even the PS4 has a replaceable HDD. Being able to replace the storage is not impressive, it's table stakes. I want a laptop for which every sub-board is replacable(without soldering or a heat gun) so I can repair it indefinitely. Apple also have more expensive parts. This counts as less repairability to me.

I want an upgradable laptop because I like laptops. And I like fast laptops even more. Upgrading the laptop instead of replacing it means less money spent on parts I don't need to replace, meaning I can either save money or spend more on performance.


I suppose what is the difference between trading in a laptop for an upgrade vs doing it yourself. The number of people willing and able to replace parts on their computers gotta be not that large.

The upgradability comes with trade offs, in reliability, price, size and weight.

I totally understand how in a perfect world i could just swap parts on my macbook, but if it makes it twice as thick and heavy, with shitty plastic panels everywhere I don’t think I want it all that much


Doesn't matter whether you do it yourself or turn it in for repair. If it's harder to repair on your own, it's gonna be way more expensive to do through a shop too. Apple are notorious for designing their laptops in a way that one component dying means the whole board must be replaced.

And yes, it's possible to design repairable laptops without making them "twice as thick and heavy, with shitty plastic panels everywhere". This is a made up problem.

If apple are so much better at "design" than everyone else, why are they so much worse at repairability? Is it too hard for Apple? Is that really your argument?


> Who doesn’t like macos?

It’s buggy AF and Apple is dumbing down the UX/UI every year and customization options are almost non existent.

Also compared to Windows multi-display support is thrash, no window snapping (?!) and Windows seems to be generally more stable.


Name me a piece of software that ain’t buggy, I’ll wait.

I work on both windows and macos. I haven’t seen the screen of death on a mac in literal years, but the windows laptop does it weekly.

I’m by no means saying that macos is perfect software. It took apple literal years to fix the airdrop for example. But i would not say it’s more buggy than windows or linux.


Mac/MacOS is piping hot garbage, I have one through work and I only ever use it as a 4th screen (aka Slack and Email machine) to the left of my actual work setup, since the thing shits itself whenever you try working with more than a single extra screen connected.

When forced to use it due to being in office or whatever I just ssh into my home setup & control it through Parsec, every time I have to actually use the thing I get the urge to toss it out of a window


I hate MacOS. I've used it as my daily OS for over three years, and never "grew to like it" (as everyone said, "just give it time"). I feel like a kid when using it, everything is hidden away to look fancy instead of usable.

The hardware is okay, I guess. I envy the M1 chips. But I don't like the keyboard layout (even after 3 years it feels off..), or how they've for years not have included necessary ports so it's a dongle-show. I also don't like the value per dollar of their hardware. If my employer pays it's fine, but I wouldn't pay the Apple tax myself.

I'm not here to start a flame war. Just to point out that you speak as if your preferences are a global truth, but plenty disagree.


I mean, yeah if you come to any os with an explanation that it works exactly the same as other os you are going to have a bad time.

I use windows for CAD work and macos for everything else and the switching is annoying for sure.

In terms of functionality (given you actually take time to learn the UI paradigms) neither windows or mac are inferior. You can do all the same things on both. So it all really comes down to familiarity such as “i hate using cmd key instead of ctrl”.

I don’t disagree with people saying “i am more used to windows” - it is true. But there is nothing about macos that is worth not liking.


What is being hidden?


Try opening finder and going to your home directory. Where is it? Heck if I know.

It's ridiculous that I couldn't right-click, click a folder hierarchy, search, or anything! No visible indicators, no hints, no way at all to just get to your dang home directory. I had to Google it and apparently the magic incantation is Cmd+Up. I quickly pinned it to my favorites so I don't lose my home directory again. Ridiculous.

For all of windows pain points, of which there are many, at least I can click "My Computer" and actually see the contents of my computer. Even Linux (Ubuntu) doesn't hide it from you.


Yeah but the vast majority of people don't actually use home dir directly and the people who do also know enough to enable it in finder options, search for it using help or the help search soertcut, bookmark or search for it using spotlight.

Spotlight (cmd space) also means you pretty much never have to navigate to a file/folder.

Fyi home is cmd + shift + h which you can find in the go menu or by search for home in the help menu.


Mac OS is a bit old, from a time when menus ruled supreme in GUI applications. You can find most of that stuff in the menu.


TIL. Sometimes it's very frustrating trying to transition from Windows to Unix, and menu bars being at the top of the screen is one of those things that still doesn't quite stick with me. Hopefully it'll stick this time :)


Finder > View > Show Path Bar

After that navigating folder hierarchies gets way easier.


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>Obviously you are in the minority

Non-Apple laptop users are in the minority? You sure about that?


I was saying that people who have macbooks and can't adapt to macos are in the minority. Not that laptops sells the most laptops in the world


I'm sorry, but the bubbled person here is you. Outside tech hubs and where rich privileged people leave, you wont see nearly as many Apple devices.

Apple's profitability is irrelevant to my point, btw.


Most people would like to have a macbook. That they can't afford it is a different point. Most people who get a macbook can adapt to macos. Those who can't are the minority. I never said that macbooks are number one selling laptops in the world.


Apple is successful no doubt, but the point is, that its OS doesn't appeal to everyone. I also can't stand it and get used to it. The weird docking behaviour, mouse acceleration, annoying jumping animations, weird window management etc. Can't find anything with spotlight. Spotlight results jump when I'm about to pick something. Glitchy window resizing animations. With multi display, windows keep disappearing from me when moving from one display to the other etc.


Windows 11 remembers my window positions. MacOS forgets my monitor configuration and also requires resetting my dock weekly for some reason to recognize my monitors.


Yeah, I loathe it. I use Linux (of all stripes), Windows, android etc. So it's not brand loyalty. The UX is trash.


Consider that there are also many people who won't even consider that. I'm saying having that opinion or knowing those differences about operating system and devices is already a specific somewhat invested subset of people. Many people literally only know windows and office and haven't even used a Mac.


A laptop that can’t be upgraded likely also can’t be fixed by the user. I’d like a realistically user-fixable laptop - especially as I (unfortunately) bought a 2017 MB Pro which has had a screen failure, a prematurely dying battery, and the well-known butterfly keyboard issues.


The dongle era macbooks are trash. I give you that.


Raising my hand because I detest macos.


I can't get over how badly MacOS works with external monitors; I have a fiddly 5ish minute Mac boot cycle process somedays because there it just refuses to output anything.


FWIW, that's really not the usual macOS experience with external monitors, and you should try doing standard connectivity troubleshooting like replacing the cable, etc.

I've been using multiple monitors (more than 1 simultaneously) with Macs forever; the experience has gotten smoother with the Apple Silicon Macs, but it worked OK on Intel, and PowerPC before that, and the old classic Macs before that.


Something is wrong with your monitor or your mac port or hopefully the cable. My m1 pro and air work perfectly with lg 5k display


The pace of renewal / refurbishment for work related and personal may not have the same frequency for most folks. Work laptops updated every 3 years approximately (at least in tech). Personal use may be 5-12 years. I bought a Macbook Pro in 2012 for myself. The next personal purchase I made was 2022 when I bought the mac mini. For everything else I used the computer which was given to me at work.


Depends very much on the person and the company, I've known many people in similar situations as you, but also many people (in business, rarely roles like developers) stuck on old, slow work laptops - even managers in companies like Dell - while having shiny new personal devices they'd bought themselves (and would, if their company allowed them, use those for work where possible - ofc companies like Dell that's a no-go, but many smaller companies are happy when their employees work on their own more expensive and more productive computer).


> Millions of people have personal laptops that are M1+ Macbooks

Yeah, but we are talking about Pros, not Airs.


Yeah people buy those too. Do you think they don't?

When my current MBP dies, I'll be buying the one with the latest chip on the market (although admittedly a lower spec version than I would presumably get from work --- but that's just because I'm not doing planning on doing huge compilations or video editing on it).


How petty are you as a person if you disregard your peers and screw someone over just because you're "uncomfortable" with a technical article?

Can we just stop with this intolerance of differing opinions? It's OK to disagree with someone. We don't need to all share the same opinions. Why the fuck would you have a conference if not to inject some healthy discourse in your community?


Also you are allowed to call that out AT THE CONFERENCE. In my field conference talks always have a Q and A. Sometimes people get completely shredded (in a tactful professional way) during a Q and A. If it's something you disagree with ask questions. This is someone willing to put their reputation on the line to say something, they've been vetted, voted on, made arrangements, etc. If they are wrong well that's what peer review is for, and working as a team is for.


Also how can someone be « uncomfortable » about a technical article? You can disagree, you can dislike it, you can even think it’s stupid, but uncomfortable? Wtf


Once on a conference one guy gave a talk about how he overrode python's module loading to load them from a mongodb instance. The reason was, if I remember correclty, because "it was easier for the juniors".

It made me veeeeeeeeery uncomfortable. Still a very good talk.


This is not the case in Europe from what I’ve heard. SW devs with the right domain knowledge in cars get very well compensated.


Then you heard wrong. I left European automotive SW because they paid peanuts. Sure, maybe there's some requirements engineers at Porsche or some niche freelance consultants in safety who makes bank, but everyone else makes peanuts. IC pay tops out at 80k per ear and that's in an expensive city like Stuttgart or Munich.


I didn’t hear anything “wrong” at all. I know people personally which make a lot more than that. If you did R&D for 80k in a senior role you got robbed.


Then can you please enlighten me which are those automotive companies that pay six figure salaries for ICs (not managers)?

The whole "industry pay isn't low, I know someone who's a millionaire, you're underpaid" alone doesn't really help anyone without any hard facts.


But still peanuts compared to American tech companies… so is the majority of talent going to stay in auto or go to big tech?


Super weird. Almost like not having ruthless a-holes as the CEO makes a difference.


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