why is it shitty? I didn't take it as him implying that's how the CEO died, just that it's an issue that happens a lot in silicon valley and it's dangerous because you can die unexpectedly due to a heart attack.
Worst case, he's implying that illegal drug use is a factor in the death of somebody known to people here. Best case, he's bringing up something irrelevant on a thread where people are paying their respects and/or dealing with a deep and sudden loss and is doing it in a way where he's oblivious to the possible implication. Either way, I think shitty is a reasonable word.
If he wants to talk about an issue in Silicon Valley, he can do it pretty much anywhere but this one page.
No, what's shitty here is you twisting my words. I never said anything about illegal drug use. I have friends who were getting ADHD medicine (subscribed by a licensed psychiatrist), but had to stop because of heart problems. THIS IS COMMON. As I said, cardiovascular diseases are an amazingly big killer of life. That is what I'm talking about. I think it's an apt time to mention this -- people are emotionally engaged, it's this time to be informed of actions we can do to care for ourselves: be cautious of stimulants (not just illegal ones), eat well and healthy, and make time to exercise.
I did not twist your words. You also never said anything about legal drug use, so when I said "worst case" I was pointing out one end of a scale of possible interpretations. That you were talking about technically legal abuse of drugs is on the scale I describe.
I stand by my point: either you were suggesting that drug abuse might be a factor here or you were bringing up something approximately irrelevant. Either way, that's shitty. Let people have their time to pay their respects and mourn without you jumping in with your kids-eat-your-veggies hobbyhorse.
Of course you stand by your point, how often do you see people online not stand by their point. That would be the unusual thing.
It's been observed many times before that when someone online starts describing another persons stance as "either you X or you Y" they're generally involved in a false dichotomy.
So congratulations wpeitri, you're just like almost everyone else on the internet. You have an opinion and nothing will convince you otherwise.
I am often convinced otherwise. Just not in this case.
By the way, your I-am-the-superior-intellect pose would be more convincing with better spelling. Note also that "It's been observed" and "they're generally" is classic weasel wording. [1] If you think the truth lies outside my constructed dichotomy, by all means make it clear what you are claiming the truth is.
You know, I never said anything about 'illegal drug use'. Maybe I chose poor words that would have one think I meant that? But I made several comments elaborating that's not what I meant after having made the initial comment. You made your posts after I made those comments. And I'm telling you now too that's not what I meant -- and I told you that before too -- it's just not what I meant. So there's really no reason to keep going on about this, do we agree?
Maybe take a break and smell the fresh air? I hope all is well with you.
Whether or not it was about illegal drug use, I believe your comment was still inappropriate. That it could be read as implying the recently deceased guy was a junkie made it especially so, but even without that I think it was woefully inconsiderate.
I don't have any need to keep talking about it, and you seem unwilling to come to grips with my actual point, so if you'd like to be done with it, I'm not stopping you.
And if I had responded with an absolute you would have attacked that instead.
It isn't really about me using weasel words or swapping the i/e in your name, it's about you using character assassination in your head to convince yourself I can't possibly have a point.
It's just another variation of the "intelligent discourse" idea that gets bandied about quite often on these sorts of boards.
We have every right to communicate, no one has verbally attacked anyone else, if it really bothers you just skip on by instead of taking the time to make sure we're aware that you're judging everyone involved in the conversation.
