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AOL To Lay Off 150 People, Mostly In Sales; Folding Joystiq, TUAW Into Engadget (techcrunch.com)
91 points by uptown on Jan 30, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 39 comments



I was one of Joystiq's first employees, before its official launch in 2005. I was a graduating high-school senior at the time, and in a bout of senioritis I played hooky almost every day in order to hang out in the A/V room and surf the internet reading video game news. I managed to find their fledgling site somehow (this was well before "blog" was a household word) and sent in so damn many exhaustively-written leads to their tip box that they eventually started publishing them almost verbatim (with attribution, of course), and then soon after cut out the middle man by hiring me outright. A great time of my life during which I met a number of great people, though in retrospect I'm incredibly embarrassed by the articles that my teenage brain managed to produce. :P

And I'll still never forget the look on my mom's face when she came into my room one night waving a $500 check from AOL. I had been told we were getting bought out, but I was completely unaware that we'd all be getting bonuses! That was the most money that I had ever had in my 17 year-old life... and straight into the college fund it went. :)


I've been a big fan of Joystiq, but I stopped visiting regularly when Google killed Reader. Guess I should have visited more often :(


Completely OT, but I've found Feedly to be a pretty decent online RSS reader.


Or Feedbin, or NewsBlur, Fever, ...

If you liked what Google Reader did, there are countless alternatives these days. I went with Feedbin + Unread on iOS and it works just as flawless as Google Reader did before.


I tried Feedly and others, but I never got comfortable. I replaced my reader habit with HN and Twitter.


Penny Arcade's comic today comments on the fact that Joystiq itself was reporting on rumors of its upcoming demise: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2015/01/30/godspeed


I'd go to TUAW just out of habit and because of its easy-to-type-URL, since it had been around for a decade, but it seemed stagnant compared to the general tech sites (engadget, gizmodo, verge) that, because of Apple's dominance, themselves became blogs about Apple.

Still, that didn't mean there weren't good niches to nimbly carve out. MacRumors Buyer's guide is, in my mind, one of the best examples of small scale data collection put to powerful use (how hard would it be for anyone, if they thought it out, to research all the release dates of Apple devices and put them in a spreadsheet). And 9to5Mac.com is getting big scoops even though its senior editor (who earns 6-figures a year, reportedly) is still in college: http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/apple_mark_gurman_9to5mac...


Looks like the people at The Verge did the right thing then, or maybe that's a root cause.

On the other hand it looks like Polygon and The Verge are becoming more and more like the same thing. Since Topolsky left there might be something happening there as well.


The Verge is unrecognizable as the tech news site that it was founded as (under the This Is My Next moniker). Two of the top five articles on their site are currently about sports, unsurprising as they are owned by the same parent as SB-Nation. They also have 'authors' whose entire output seems to consist of blogspam summaries of articles on other sites.


The Verge wasn't founded as a tech news site. It was founded as a culture site, with a slant towards tech (because technology is a part of everyday culture).

This has been their message since the very beginning.

That sports article currently featured on the front page? About how tech and social media is changing sports. Just because there's a football doesn't mean its off topic for a 'tech' website. http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/28/7878051/espn-sportscenter-...

The very first long form article they published back in 2011 was about "A new breed of survivalist is wealthy, educated, and plans to ride out 2012 in style". http://www.theverge.com/culture/2011/11/1/2525857/2012-survi...

The Verge has changed in the three years since it launched (everything has) - but it's still the type of site it launched as.


Exactly the same, except with 1/10th the article quality.


There are many times where I've noticed Verge and Polygon post articles on the exact same topics and it doesn't make sense at all since Polygon was originally meant to only be for game industry discussion.


They kinda have identity crisis sometimes. Recently I read a long opinion piece about WWE's Royal Rumble on Polygon, no idea why that's in there.


Stuff like this is what happens when you let metrics drive your vision instead of the other way around.


Which is pretty disappointing since originally their mission statement seemed to be that they wanted to escape that mindset (most of the original team came from Engadget and such).


The goal is to get traffic from facebook/reddit/twitter/etc, not to report unique or relevant things. By blurring the boundaries they create opportunities to link to each other and re-monetize content because both sites have a shot at pulling traffic from social media.


With respect to the business side that makes perfect sense. But as to their original direction when they were creating the distinct Polygon property, it's gone pretty far off-course.


Polygon was interesting when it started, but then they stopped their deep journalism pieces, adulterated the site with non-game content, and hired Ben Kuchera :-(


I think they found out in-depth longread type articles don't guarantee a consistent readership. It's possible to pull off if it's a once a week or twice a week kind of thing, but they were trying to do it as their main content source.


I dunno what happened with Ben - he was pretty enjoyable to read back at Ars Technica, but in the meantime has become downright obnoxious.


Ars had good editors.


Chris Grant left Joystiq to start Polygon shortly after Topolsky and team went to start The Verge.


:(

I used to work at Weblogs, Inc. and had done work for all three of these pubs. The worst part for me is that the original vision of Weblogs, Inc. is dead. The vision was to have dozens of niche blogs covering topics people cared about. Sad.


Now with Kinja, Gawker is kinda fulfilling that vision...


Gawker is terrible because they over cross-promote. Sometimes you go to deadspin.com and barely any of the stories are actually about sports.


Damn. It's a sad day when Gawker of all places is the one that is meeting some grand vision...


When Weblogs Inc sold to AOL, TechCrunch said "Congratulations to all of the bloggers and employees of Weblogs, Inc." Who's to say it would have turned out any better if they had stayed independent, but Weblogs Inc was profitable in 2005 even without AOL.


What is the value add of combining niche blogs into one "network"? Maybe the ability to advertise for each other?


Economies of scale in sales, tech and business operations. Knowledge sharing, eg. distribution and audience development techniques. Increased leverage with 3rd party vendors, search and social platforms, etc. Plus the usual benefits of scale (cashflow stability etc.)


Partly. I run a network of email newsletters which was inspired by someone suggesting I build a "Weblogs Inc of email newsletters" and the domino effect of branching out into related topics your existing user base is interested in has proven a powerful one.

Another win, which was also true at Weblogs Inc, is the ability to share technology and editorial talent. There are certainly major branding downsides to running 10, say, smaller publications versus 1 bigger one with 10x the traffic, but it's a workable model, if not a glamorous one.


I imagine that it's promoting each other and also centralize the non-editorial parts of running the network. Distributed content staff but centralized sales, technology and administration.


What about Shingy?


They seem to still have enough money to keep paying him his six-figure salary. So there's that.


Sad - no more WoW Insider either. I hope some of the niche blogs reemerge as independent sites.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2015/01/30/wow-insider-is-logging-off...


I wrote for WoW Insider for several years, and still keep in touch with the writers there. I would recommend following Alex and Adam on Twitter for more information on what (might) be coming after the official closure next week.


I used to visit TUAW fairly often for very niche Apple news that none of the major tech news sites would write about. But in the past few years I've dropped it for 9to5mac because it just wasn't hitting the spot anymore.


Looks like Autoblog Canada bit the dust too, just a redirect to their main Autoblog page.

Interesting, is there a full list of what's been affected, or did I just miss it in TFA?


Link to TUAW is typo'd in the article. Correct address is http://www.tuaw.com/


It has now been corrected, but thanks for the downvote




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