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There is some great history here but I wish he were not so dismissive of BART. I complain about it all the time -- yes trains get delayed sometimes -- but in the big scheme of things BART is simply magnificent. There's nothing quite like it in the country -- a high speed inter-city under-water under-ground train system. New York has the LIRR to Long Island and the Acela to DC, but it's got nothing on BART.

Yes, BART "fails" to reach the North and South bay, because those areas withdrew from the project in the early 1960s. But it links the peninsula down to Milbrae, including SFO, and all of the East Bay into San Francisco. Soon Oakland airport via direct rail, too.

And yes, intra-city transit in SF needs fixing. The Muni Metro points the way. But as long as companies like Twitter are being handed tax breaks that's not going to happen. Subways require a lot of capital and maintenance. (You may notice NYC has an income tax.)




Just to put things in perspective with some NYC area vs Bay Area commuter rail/heavy rapid transit systems -

Commuter rail:

  LIRR:           97,090,300 rides/year, 336 miles, 124 stations, 24/7 operation

  Metro-North:    83,326,200 rides/year, 330 miles, 121 stations, ~21.5 hours/day operation

  NJ Transit:     81,942,000 rides/year, 398 miles, 164 stations, ~22.5 hours/day operation

  Caltrain:       16,294,900 rides/year,  77 miles,  32 stations, 19 hrs/weekday & 12 hrs/day weekends
Heavy rapid transit:

  NYC Subway:  2,651,804,600 rides/year, 232 miles, 468 stations, 24/7 operation

  BART:          124,747,400 rides/year, 104 miles,  44 stations, ~20 hrs/weekday & ~17 hrs/day weekends
More:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_rapid_tra...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_commuter_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_light_rai...


What is so sad is that your are right. BART is a wonderful way to get around when you compare it against the mass transit options of other cities in the US. And yet there is so much room for improvement with BART.

I just want to throw this in: Dallas has some of the worst mass transit options. Many of the trains won't even run on Sunday. And every time you cross the street you feel like you are about to run down by some oversized, overpowered vehicle that could hold a dozen people but only holds one.


What is up with the Dallas hate in this thread?

It doesn't have public transit comparable to Chicago, New York, or even San Francisco, but it is a much younger city than those and has much different dynamics both historically (was really built out in the 50s and 60s with suburbs in mind) and politically (fiscal conservatives are huge here).

I typed pretty much the following paragraph in another comment, so forgive me for being annoying but I want to stress it:

Despite that, and despite that the DART rail to to the best of my knowledge didn't exist 20 years ago, you can take the rail to the far northwestern suburbs (Carrolton), the far northern suburbs (Plano), the northeastern suburbs (Rowlett), the west (DFW airport), and all of the lines reach into different parts of South Dallas and connect areas like Oak Cliff, Fair Park, Deep Ellum. The TRE connects Irving and Fort Worth. Buses cover a much wider area.

The trains do run a less frequent weekend service, but they still run to every single one of those areas. Considering the political culture here and the fact that DART loses money I'd say that is a damn miracle.

You can make the comments you want about the car culture here, but that is true for any suburban city in America. People will say the same thing about LA drivers.

I wish Dallas was better but it is doing damn well for itself.




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