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> We see him, time and time again, sniping at people who outgrow those patterns but still want to use Rails.

To me it seems more like the pattern proponents who are sniping at those who find MVC to be sufficient. Take for example the recent discussion that dhh participated in:

* The post's title: "Rails - The Missing Parts". Good start - establish your position by claiming that Rails is defective in that crucial parts that everyone requires are just missing.

* "We’re solving these problems with 3 concepts we believe should be part of any “Advanced” Rails deployment". Now try to convince people that if they aspire to anything 'advanced' then they simply must be adding in these additional bits, no questions asked, no two ways about it.

dhh's "sniping" response?

"Whatever floats your boat, though. If this is what you prefer, great. But please hold the "beginner's version" crap. Plenty of large apps are built with vanilla Rails."

So all he's saying is "if you want to do that, go ahead. Just don't try to make out that Rails is defective because it doesn't do it by default".




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