There's "out of the echo chamber", and then there's "fully out of the scope of HN", and debating the merits of Turkey's suppression of the Internet vis a vis the Internet as a conduit for western propaganda is "fully out of the scope of HN".
There are good places to have that debate, and HN just isn't one of them.
There are good places to have that debate, and HN just isn't one of them.