Hmmmm... 2010 was apparently much worse than 2011/2012.
#1 - Look at 2012/2011 [1] - "As of December 31, 2012, our worldwide portfolio consisted of 500 properties (135,144 rooms and units)".
Property has value, even without income. AirBnB has no such thing.
"[...]We primarily derive our revenues from hotel operations, management and franchise fees, other revenues from managed properties and sales of vacation ownership properties. For the years ended December 31, 2012 and 2011, revenues totaled $3.9 billion and $3.7 billion, respectively, net income attributable to Hyatt Hotels Corporation totaled $88 million and $113 million, respectively, and Adjusted EBITDA totaled $606 million and $538 million, respectively.[...]"
#2 - Your $30MM ($300MM) is before taxes, before expenses, before costs of expansion (servers, but also support, legal, etc etc) to get to the $300MM, and based on them not paying taxes, not adhering to local laws, etc etc.
In short: I think it's fair to state that the $10BB valuation is rather 'bubblelicious'.
Your $30MM ($300MM) is before taxes, before expenses
yes I'm aware of that. In my OP I was going to also say
"at $300M with a 20% net income margin (which would be one of the higher net income margins but not unheard of) AirBnB would be producing $60M of profit." but I figured most people would be able to infer that.
Anyway, think about it this way. TPG is leading the deal right? TPG is one of the top 5 PE firms in the country. While it's possible TPG is making crazy investments, I think the best base case assumption is the TPG is not making crazy investments. I mean these are seriously smart guys with a good track record.
So if we start from the position that TPG is sane, then we ask ourselves, how are sane people getting to a $10B valuation. And I think I gave the outline of how sane people might be looking at it and arriving at a $10B valuation.
Plus I'm old enough to remember when people thought it was crazy that Amazon was valued at more than Barnes & Noble.
#1 - Look at 2012/2011 [1] - "As of December 31, 2012, our worldwide portfolio consisted of 500 properties (135,144 rooms and units)".
Property has value, even without income. AirBnB has no such thing.
"[...]We primarily derive our revenues from hotel operations, management and franchise fees, other revenues from managed properties and sales of vacation ownership properties. For the years ended December 31, 2012 and 2011, revenues totaled $3.9 billion and $3.7 billion, respectively, net income attributable to Hyatt Hotels Corporation totaled $88 million and $113 million, respectively, and Adjusted EBITDA totaled $606 million and $538 million, respectively.[...]"
[1] Source: - http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9M...
#2 - Your $30MM ($300MM) is before taxes, before expenses, before costs of expansion (servers, but also support, legal, etc etc) to get to the $300MM, and based on them not paying taxes, not adhering to local laws, etc etc.
In short: I think it's fair to state that the $10BB valuation is rather 'bubblelicious'.