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TokBox Fires 50% Of Engineering Team, All Founders Gone (techcrunch.com)
23 points by vaksel on July 9, 2009 | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments



Man, look at the "team" page: http://www.tokbox.com/view/team

Why the hell do they need a "VP of Human Resources"? A "Community Evangelist"? I count 20 people on that team, I would have expected a third of that.

Good lessons here for startup hopefuls. First, don't take $14m for your fairly simple flash video app. Second, if you do, don't waste that money on feeding your ego with a large headcount. Third, if you do, don't be surprised when you're kicked out and someone else is in control of your baby.


Sometimes when you have too many employees some will show up, start their computer, sip on some coffee and pretend to work for the entire day. Then one magical day someone with a decision power realizes that this guys are just trading "showing up for 8 hours" for fat checks. On that day the collector gets fired.

This does not necessarily mean that the company is having trouble. It just means they can hire people who can actually do some work or be more productive than the ones who were fired.

Do your job. Do it damn well or at least show everyone that you are trying hard enough and if they bear with you a little bit more you will succeed at it. Otherwise enjoy the checks and know that sooner or later your circus will end.


Ouch. And not fired by crappy VCs, but by Sequoia and Mitt Romney. That's gotta be bad for their self-esteem.


Seems like it would be better for their self-esteem if they could rationalize the firing as being by crappy VCs who don't know what they're doing. This way, it's much harder to blame it on the VCs.


Good to know that not dropping out of school to work for them 2 years ago was the right choice.


Who knows, you might have been their new CEO and you might have kicked some serious butt in that position...

Alternative universes have one small drawback, we don't get to experience them.


I wish it were that simple. If you had joined them two years ago, even if this is where the startup is today, you would have learnt a lot. One could make a case that it may even be better than school.


Seems like a case of raising too much money too soon and getting kicked out by the VCs. But I could be wrong and I am curious to know the founders side of the story.


the founders took money off the table (the ones who left right after the funding round at least) so they're fine


It's not about the money or may be it's just me I want see my products succeed not just work. If the founders left right after the funding round that just doesn't seem right to me, it isn't fair to the VC's either. I guess we'll never know what exactly transpired unless one of the founders speak up.


Sounds like something else may have caused the founders to leave, maybe there was some friction between the top brass?




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