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I worry the trend is going in the other direction. I've been trying to set up a particular wireless networking device in ubuntu and the only instructions I found that I could get working involved gnome desktop apps.

To reiterate - I need to have a user logged into the desktop environment in order to get wireless networking going. At that moment I lost all enthusiasm for the prospect of desktop linux becoming mainstream.

    Of course there isn’t. He lives in a web browser.
    The underlying OS is irrelevant. 
What about games? Nethack runs better under unix.



Details on the wireless thing? I assure you, do you not "need" an X client running on the box to make any piece of hardware work. The fact that someone wrote a GUI helper for the task (what task, btw?) hardly sounds like a disadvantage to me.

People here can help you, if you let them. Posting incomplete problem reports like this as evidence for a platform troll is kinda bad form.


You're absolutely right, and thanks to help from this thread I got it working.


I have no idea what 'particular wireless networking device' you're trying to configure, but if you're just trying to get your Wifi card hooked up to a secured router using just a shell, the following thread is gold (substitute vim/nano/whatever for gedit in Step 2):

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834


Thanks for this (anmd everyone else's suggestions) - gives me encouragement ot have another crack at it. This guide in particular looks like a solid runthrough of the stages along the way.


Thanks a stack for that link. Having the right doc is everything. I followed it through and everything Just Worked for me. I was at the stage of hunting ebay for good deals on ciscos before this thread, you've saved me money and time.


Anytime.


Games run perfectly on an Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3.


And some run perfectly in Windows. I prefer my PC Games.


Yes. But NetHack runs pretty well under DOS, too.


Nethack runs pretty well in the browser too.

http://www.big-ape.net/nethax/




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