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Just another example of socialist statism run amok. You would think with German's recent past, the authorities would be wary of snatching kids from their parents and putting them who knows where.



Indeed. Every time someone jokes "It sounded better in the original German" I think of cases like these and think "It still does".


You are aware that one of the reasons we do this is to take away parents ability to indoctrinate their children in a nationalist ideology?

In German _public_ schools, children learn about the Holocaust, the Wars, the STASI multiple times over the course of their education, with progressing depth of discussion as they grow older. How many other states educate their resident children on the bad parts of their history this thorroughly?

Sorry, but your views from afar are quite skewed.


I'm sure it's skewed from your viewpoint, but that doesn't automatically mean it's invalid.

In this case, my most general principle is that the ends do not justify the means.

More specifically, the danger I see is in the totalitarian method, where the state requires that "You must believe this", be it National Socialism in the '30s and '40s, or after that Communism (till ~1990) or Social Democracy. As long as the state uses this method, and the people are sufficiently comfortable with it, what the state is insisting that you believe is obviously subject to change.

"How many other states educate their resident children on the bad parts of their history this thorroughly?"

How many states feel they have a burning need to educate their children on the bad parts of their history? Which of the ones that didn't murder millions of their own people?

Then there are the results: Do any states need to self-extinguish? With a fertility rate of 1.41, you're just about at the "lowest low" threshold of 1.3 from which societies don't recover. By the end of the next century this discussion will be irrelevant, because there won't be any Germans left to discuss it with....




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