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You're being down voted because your comment is entirely non-constructive.

1) Calling people insane won't win you any favors.

2) "WAKE UP" is an entirely useless platitude.

3) Simply not using "NSA companies" is completely impractical. Not everyone can afford to be a recluse eccentric by ignoring the largest software providers on the planet. Never mind the fact that switching to an alternative in mass would simply produce a new "NSA company". These companies aren't at fault, our government is.

Do you have any concrete proposals? Do you have anything new to share? It doesn't seem that you do.




These companies aren't at fault, our government is

I think the companies are also at fault. If instead of illegal surveillance the companies were being asked to illicitly expose employees to potentially harmful radiation, the moral culpability would be more obvious, regardless of the letter of the FISC laws their corporate counsel was shown.

There was clearly a decision on the part of the employees of the companies involved not to risk their own livelihoods by simply going along with what the government wanted.

I'd argue that major atrocities are possible via the combined impact of institutionally diffused acts of moral depravity such as those committed by our beloved tech companies.


Not to mention they're completely tapping the cables too…

Guess it's time to find the resources to buy thousands of miles of fiber optics and hope the NSA, GCHQ, and the rest of the global surveillance state doesn't tap those! :D


Avoiding Microsoft, Google, and Apple doesn't leave many smart phone options either.


There is always the Blackberry.


If they've publicly provided similar capabilities to the Indian government, it seems naive to think that list isn't longer.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/telecom/news/government-to-take-over...


Yeah, they might join PRISM any day.


I was going to ask if the Canadian government could do anything about that, but then disillusionment set in.


> Calling people insane won't win you any favors.

I say exactly what it IS. It IS INSANE.

I do NOT give a fuck about any favors. I don't care about any fucking karma points - we're turning into a turn-key totalitarian system, and people act like nothing has changed.

You got https://prism-break.org/

Now go and do your homework, I'm not your dad.


You must be new to HN. Reddit is probably better suited for you.




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