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"The real action is buried in obscure subchapters of innocuous-sounding bills and voted on under emergency provisions that let everything happen without public disclosure."

Doesn't sound like transparency to me. The authors point seems to be that efforts to be transparent, aren't actually. If Congress and others are hiding the 'good stuff', we need to work on making that transparent.




Or maybe Congress should meet for a few days every few years, so only the really important things ever get worked on.


That would never work. To start with, you can't stop members of Congress from associating with each other. If you said "you get one week every 2 years to pass everything", the entire congress would spend 1 year and 51 weeks in secret meetings trying to figuring out what to vote for in their 1 week of voting time.

All that would happen as a result is there would be a 2 year back log of legislation, and it would take FOREVER for anything to get done.

The only real way to deal with corruption in government is to limit it's power. As long as there are people in power, some of them are going to become corrupt. That's just human nature. The best you can do is limit power, so that the damage they can do is minimized.


> you can't stop members of Congress from associating with each other.

Actually, many states have open meeting laws where, if it becomes clear that politicians met and discussed certain topics, it is a crime, and it's punishable.

They don't often get used, but I think that the threat does alter behavior at least a bit.


I'd like to read about these, particularly about how they could be Constitutional, but I can't seem to find the correct words for a Google search. Would you post a link, or possibly a set of words to search for?


http://www.rcfp.org/ogg/index.php provides an outline of open meeting laws by state.


Seemingly arbitrary limits on the time/compensation of legislators might have more of an effect than you think. The Texas legislature meets only once every two years, and its session is constitutionally limited to 140 days.

The California legislature seems to meet constantly, and regularly spends time in extended sessions trying to pass overdue budgets in a never-ending fiscal crisis. California doesn't get any benefit from the extra official time its legislators put in, and Texas legislators aren't busy preplanning legislation the entire time they're out of session.

Given the fickleness of public opinion, there are natural limits as to how much planning months' ahead of time can help.


AIUI, one reason California is in a constant fiscal crisis is that it takes a supermajority to raise taxes and other constitutional provisions mandate how a certain proportion of the budget should be spent. So it's much harder for California legislators to negotiate a budget than for Texas legislators.


Heck - in California it takes a two-thirds majority to pass the annual budget


Real transparency would amount to such a large change in the system that it's unrealistic to think it can be tacked on. The scope of work is too large.


Yeah, it sounds hard so we probably shouldn't even try.


I don't even know where to begin.

Aaron has noticed that a simple goal like "transparency" can't be immediately, directly implemented, because the system is such that it's like trying to dig a hole in water. Of course, you can put a hole in water, since that's what a boat is, but doing it incrementally (a piece here, a piece there, then bailing out the water, checking for leaks, etc) is going to be much more difficult than just building a boat out of the water and putting it in. Activists always seem to start out wanting to "just make these specific changes" from within the system, and that usually works, in general, when the changes are in the direction the system is already going, "with the flow," as it were.

If you want to make a change that is against the flow, it's far, far easier to make the change away from the system and then drop it in so that the system (government, a corporation, a church, or whatever) is forced to deal with it whole.

This is a very interesting topic: part economics, part psychology, part politics, and more; I've spent a lot of time thinking about it over the last 10 years, but I am just an egg, understanding little. :)

Re-reading, I notice that this is still unclear, so what I'm saying is that we need to focus on solutions that are primarily technical, because social and political solutions almost never work in the first place and tend to roll back as soon as the pressure lets up. The internet is killing copyright in a way that we anti-copyright folk would never have been able to do with "education" and "reform".


what I'm saying is that we need to focus on solutions that are primarily technical, because social and political solutions almost never work in the first place

Really? I think the opposite. I can think of very few times where a social problem has been solved purely by technology.

(Anyway, I think the real answer is you need to attack the problem on all fronts at once)


I can think of very few times where a social problem has been solved purely by technology.

Here are some candidates, some more arguable than others:

Slavery was destroyed by the steam engine.

World wars are no longer rushed into due to nuclear weapons.

The Pill contributed strongly to equal treatment for women.

The automobile changed sexual mores drastically (whether you view this as a "solved problem" or not).

Poverty itself was solved by technology (yeah, I know that statement will be controversial, but I think it's eminently defensible).

In fact, I think a case could be made that technology is the only thing that has ever solved a social problem in anything like a permanent fashion.


I don't think anyone ever claimed transparency was a simple goal.




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