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While that line might be vague, are you arguing that this example _isn't_ fraud? I'm sure they violated the affiliate network terms of service — which is one thing if you're an individual user, but when it's a business contract, terms become much more important. Moreover, these guys had to know they were in violation of the spirit of these programs — affiliate marketing is _marketing_, which they were doing none of.



Heh. Nope, not _arguing_ that, because arguing what constitutes fraud and what does not belongs ONLY to the administrators of said governing laws.

If I were presiding over this specific case, and had a breadth of understanding that confirmed they were cookie-stuffing beyond a doubt, I would move to convict them.

I do think the line that separates a civil matter and a criminal matter is unclear at times.

Further edit: Oh, were you asking if I thought the Airbnb behavior an example of fraud? Well, now I guess I do... based on what I read today. I still think its a civil issue, but it doesn't matter what I think. Prosecutors be prosecutin'.


Nope. Was't referring to Airbnb. You say you think fraud is vaguely defined. Which might be true (I don't know enough). But this seems like it crosses a pretty bright line.


It's tricky, and depends on exactly how they represented their actions. They did send traffic to ebay, but it was worthless traffic.

Also, legally it's only fraud if the victim doesn't know you're lying. I'm not at all convinced that was the case here.


They _didn't_ send traffic. They just set cookies and waited for people to go to eBay who would have anyways.


By my reading they used iframes (or maybe img) to literally send traffic to eBay, and it was eBay's servers that set the cookie. As far as I understand it you can't set a cookie on a domain you don't control. But I admit I might be wrong, the article is confusing on the technical details.




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