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You insist on a misnomer. Achieving electrical breakeven haven't been done yet (and even if it will be)



Sorry, this site really doesn't like pinch to zoom. I'm having a little trouble - the post wasn't even supposed to be posted, but oh well.

I was doing research and apparently I was wrong too, depending on a definition of fusion breakeven (which I was unable to find) Care to explain what is yours?

If you achieve even smallest amount of fusion, technically you have more energy than you started with. Electrical break even would be the holy grail of fusion research, but even then you have to reach economic feasibility (produce enough power to pay back the cost of a plant)


> I was doing research and apparently I was wrong too, depending on a definition of fusion breakeven (which I was unable to find) Care to explain what is yours?

Fusion break-even means the reaction produces more than or equal to the power required to initiate it. Apart from stars and weapons, it has never been achieved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor

Quote: "The fusion energy gain factor, usually expressed with the symbol Q, is the ratio of fusion power produced in a nuclear fusion reactor to the power required to maintain the plasma in steady state. The condition of Q = 1 is referred to as breakeven."

> If you achieve even smallest amount of fusion, technically you have more energy than you started with.

Yes, but with serious problems. One of them is that you have to continue providing more power than the reaction creates, in order to keep the reaction going. This means the overall available power is less than the input power. The reaction is using up much of the power to sustain itself, and that power can't be applied to another purpose. So even though technically there is a lot of power present, it cannot be applied to any purpose other than energizing the plasma. This means the net available power is less than the input power.

This is a bit hard to visualize, so let's say that we have 1000 watts available to apply to some ordinary purpose, or to sustain a fusion reaction.

We discover that the fusion reactor requires all 1000 watts to keep its plasma activated and fusing, but the fusion reaction only produces 250 watts. So, even though there is 1,250 watts of power in the system, 1000 watts of that is required to sustain the plasma in its fusing state and is therefore unavailable. That means only 250 watts is available for any other purpose.

Hence the importance of break-even. :)


> You insist on a misnomer.

What? I have only insisted that it hasn't happened, and that it's a requirement for viable fusion power.




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