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I got a Lumia 822 (Verizon-only offering) and I have mixed feelings about it. I love the Live Tiles but things like IE10 Mobile really frustrate me. There is no Flash support so I can't go to certain sites (like Beatport Sounds). There are sites that don't render properly and overall the text is rather small and I haven't figured out a way to increase the size yet (not sure if it is the smaller screen size to blame or there is just not a way to increase that size).

One thing that I have found to be an annoyance is the search button on the bottom of the phone. No matter what it will bring me to the Bing search, which is good unless it is hit by accident. There is an archery game that I enjoy that has you press and drag to aim and quite often I'm brought to the search screen because my finger goes out of the screen area and hits the search icon. My fault? Of course, but it is incredibly frustrating.

The other thing I hate is volume control. There are only two. One for in call volume and then one for the ring tone. That seems great, except that the ring tone volume also controls headphone/media volume. If I want my ringtone low then my volume for youtube will be low. If I want to my ringtone to be loud (which I haven't been able to get, even with the volume turned all the way up to 30 out of 30 I can still barely hear it) and so will all my media. I wasn't happy with my previous Android phone (HTC Evo 4G) but at least my volume for media was separate from my volume for ringtone.

Overall, I'm happy with it and some of the addons from Nokia are amazing; such as an app that uses augmented reality and shows various attractions (restaurants, gas stations, etc) in the area while you are holding up your camera. It will mark them on your screen as well as tell you how far you are from that location and the ability to get quick reviews. Plus it shows a compass in the upper right which allows you to know which direction it is in. While there are major issues, in my eyes, that need to be fixed, I still think the phone is better than the Android phone I had before and for only $30 with a new plan (due to $20 trade in credit and just Verizon slashing the price) you can't really go wrong.



Flash is the Legent on mobile devices. Even Adobe the builder they have dropped Flash on mobile platform, so let's forget about Flash. Even on my Web browsers, I can't tolerate without Flash Block add-on.

And, I think Nokia's phone is good, for in so short time left. They just need time to improve


I hear this time and time again. "Flash is dead" and it is, except when it isn't. Beatport Sounds use it for playing samples, which means that I cannot use that site on my phone. Since WP8 is so locked down, the only browser option is IE 10 Mobile, so locking me out of flash means that one of the sites I want to go to is not fully functional for me. As a user, that pisses me off.


FWIW: if I go to http://sounds.beatport.com/publisher/sounds-to-sample/19417, the play buttons produce sounds. That is on an iPad, which denitely doesn't have Flash.

=> contact them to have them fix/adjust their site for Windows Phone 8 and help us make Flash deader (yes, there is no honor in kicking a man who is down, but sometimes it just is the best for both parties involved) http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2012/... may be a helpful link for them.


I just had to try this. I navigated to that site on my phone (using this link) and when I click the play button it acts just as if I clicked any link with a "#" as the href. It brings me to the top and nothing. I guess I'll try and get in contact with Beatport to get their site to work on WP8.


"Flash is dead" means that few developers will allow it as a technology dependency for new long term projects. It doesn't mean that every web site you use will work fine without it.


I think the point jetti is trying to make though is not that Flash isn't dead as a platform, it clearly is for mobile. The point is that it may be dead for new projects, but there are still millions of existing ones that use it. So, if you don't support it with your mobile device, you're basically saying please have a difficult time using our device if you are a regular user of that service/site.


Exactly, thank you for your much better explanation than I could give.


Thankfully this will likely only be a Problem for another year or so. A huge swell of interest and uptake into mobile platforms, (Pew shows north of 120 million smartphone and tablet owners in the US alone) means that very quickly a site that want to have a reasonably sized audience will have to adjust to the mobile platform. Regardless - it's a moot point as adobe communicated they will not be developing flash for mobile platforms.


not even IE, all the modern browsers for mobile OS, all shut the door to Flash. but than does'n mean you can't watch online videos on, like youtube.

as users, we should welcome the new technology, rather than the good old days stuff. Flash used to be master and excellent, but time changed. They can't manage at every time, they need to be replaced by other new comers.


So ask Beatport to use a different technology or ask Adobe to make Flash work on WP8. Adobe is the one who has abandoned Flash.




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