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WinRT and Mono (tirania.org)
19 points by wslh on Oct 20, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 10 comments


I don't understand. Yes, use best practices in the development of software. No, this doesn't explain why you won't support X and even recommend to use a bunch of different frameworks and potentially runtimes/languages.


I think WinRT on top of Linux could be waste of resources (as it was with moonlight). WinRT might not even succeed on Windows


The less Miguel is involved in anything Linux related, the better.


Despite that not being a very HN-worthy comment, i'm curious: why? To me limited knowledge, he's responsible for allowing using an excellent language+framework cross-platform, for which I'm thankful.


Well, he's also largely responsible for early Gnome and his problematic views live on there. Whenever I read one of his posts, he's gushing over with excitement about some new technology from either Microsoft or Apple that he wants to bring to Linux, which then quickly proceeds to be a giant PITA to people who create distros, build embedded systems and so on. These projects tend to be abandoned rather quickly in the scheme of unix software (X, vim, emacs, bash - anyone replaced these 3 times in the last 10 years?). The mess he helped create (and recently admitted to be sort of guilty for, in a lengthy blog post why the Linux desktop has failed - or some similar hyperbole) is then left to deal with for everyone else.

Meanwhile, the Linux desktop (and for that matter, BSD) is perfectly usable with a well selected mixture of window managers that have been around from before I was born, audio players that don't require mysql backends, editors that work just fine from embedded systems to servers, and so on. Nobody ever missed a registry in this world. Nobody ever thought: "hey, a program that modifies its own config files is great, lets write a bunch, or use a database!" - resulting in the insanity that you can't version control your config files anymore, or keep your $HOME on NFS.

His ideas are great in the world of consumer operating systems - locked down, shiny, and limited to the "brilliance" of its designer. But I don't want to live in his world, therefore I'm very happy whenever he does something that does not involve "improving" the Linux desktop experience.


> hey, a program that modifies its own config files is great

I think that all the time. On a server I might be willing to muck around with configuration files. On a desktop? You're damned right I want a discoverable UI for configuration.


Note that the entire raison d'etre of the GNU project was and is to build a compatible work-a-like of proprietary Unix. I'll never get why it seems some people have such a bee in the bonnet about Mono doing the exact same thing with .NET.


I don't have a problem with Mono, at all. I have problems with him trying to push it into the Linux Desktop. Thankfully, that has failed.


It's actually becoming more popular for games. Bastion for example uses Mono in order to run on Linux.


And so the grand unified Microsoft bridgehead fragments.




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