Some of these may also work in different life stages. Want reasonable job securi...

JadeNB · 2025-06-02T11:50:38 1748865038

Isn't "not valued" at odds with "reasonable job security?"

steveBK123 · 2025-06-02T11:52:35 1748865155

If there's a grid of 4 types of people, the two boxes of "not useful" are usually let go first

lovich · 2025-06-02T12:31:05 1748867465

You respect your managers a lot more than I would.

The not valued column is let go first via the fact that the value function is what decides if their managers care or not

steveBK123 · 2025-06-02T14:30:44 1748874644

Good points and maybe expressed to generally by me.

I suspect who is laid off first is more to do with the lifecycle of the company actually, having been in high/low/negative growth environments myself.

I have found in negative growth environments, managers tend to get pretty sober about who is actually useful not just valued, and cut accordingly. Negative growth environments is also when more cuts happen, with generally a worse job hunting environment if you are cut.

But in frivolous times, yes, I've seen plenty of useful people get cut.. but they always bounce back better anyway.

closewith · 2025-06-02T12:00:34 1748865634

That's missing the point here completely, as it's not the useless who are let go first, it's the unvalued.

closewith · 2025-06-02T11:59:37 1748865577

The opposite is true. In those situations, you want to be valued but useless.