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I've never had the pleasure of experiencing DuoLingo myself, but by all accounts it's an exceptionally time-inefficient way of learning a language. If the objective is to have fun playing a buzzy mobile game with the rest of the world then whatever, but if you actually want to make progress in a language you'd be much better advised to head over to something like Refold https://refold.la/ or Dreaming Spanish https://www.dreamingspanish.com/ . Even if you simply must have a phone app which does everything for you, you'd probably do better with something like Busuu https://www.busuu.com or Glossika https://ai.glossika.com/ .

So the AI furore is a bit ironic: people profess to hate "bullshit jobs", but if anything is a bullshit job it's probably providing the manpower for a language-learning app which doesn't actually teach languages effectively. Replacing mechanical-Turk slop with AI slop probably is a genuine productivity gain unleashed by AI here, yes? OTOH a drop in subscriber numbers and total user-hours is probably a good thing too, so don't let any of this put you off from giving up on DuoLingo.




The language-specific subreddits also have excellent advice.


The quality of advice on Reddit seems to be variable, unfortunately. Apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese is full of people who've spent years doing Genki (https://genki3.japantimes.co.jp/en/ , probably an even bigger sinkhole for money, time and enthusiasm than DuoLingo) with little to show for it who are determined to drag everyone else into the same crab-bucket, for instance. OTOH https://www.reddit.com/r/latin/ used to be very helpful.


What do you recommend?


For Japanese specifically? Try starting with https://refold.la/how-to-learn-japanese/ . (There are various people promoting similar methods, but Refold are probably by far the most pleasant and professional option.) And in general https://refold.la/get-started/ and the Refold discords are usually a good starting point. For languages which have Muzzy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzy_in_Gondoland translations I'd honestly just start by watching Muzzy in Gondoland maybe thirty or forty times, then moving on to Muzzy Comes Back, before worrying about any other resources or methods. Spanish is unusually well provided for, with Dreaming Spanish https://www.dreamingspanish.com/ and also Destinos https://www.learner.org/series/destinos-an-introduction-to-s... .




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