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I remember when this was called cookie stuffing, and eBay even sent a guy to jail for doing it with their affiliate program. That’s the same eBay that owned PayPal, which now owns Honey…





It's totally different you see. This time the fraud was done by a faceless corporation maximizing shareholder returns so this is just an exercise in free speech by an immortal, in the same vein as running an unlicensed lottery.

Kind of like how most spyware is now called “employee monitoring tools”. This stuff used to be frowned upon but now I guess the narrative has changed.

It was time to go back to the orifice....

if the computer belongs to the company, and you're using it as an employee, you should be told that such spyware is installed and your usage of said machines are monitored. Then there's no qualms about this at all.

It's only an invasion of privacy if the monitoring is done in secret.


|It's only an invasion of privacy if the monitoring is done in secret.

Uhhh... that seems very incorrect. If someone pokes their head into your shower session, it's an invasion of privacy - whether or not they let you know they're peepin on ya.


The equivalent here is if it's a company shower, and your supposed to be cleaning an office appliance, not yourself. In that context someone poking their head on to see how it's going is fine.

Considering eBay also had management that harassed people by mailing them live spiders and dead pig fetuses... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ebay-pay-3-million-empl...

Aside, but NBC’s website is way better executed than I was expecting.

Perhaps it changed recently, or I just never noticed? I was expecting 100MB with back button abuse and retention dark patterns. Instead, it loads fast, has minimal guff, and the footer scrolled into view ending the page within sight of the end of the actual article.

Perhaps this is a reward response to not having to / be able to doom scroll?


It's not great without uBlock but still much better than most others. No video!

Wow, the former Senior Director of Safety and Security was sent to prison for 57 months! That's some great work by eBay.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/final-defendant-ebay-cybe...


Now share what happened to the CEO. Behind the bastards did a great 2 part series on the insane tale: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...


Yeah he was also the owner of DigitalPoint if anyone remembers that forum and era.

Now they can just avoid paying for affiliate links for anyone who has honey installed

Didn't the guy that ran Skeptoid go to jail for similar?

I'm sorry what? Skeptoid the podcast?

Edit: Yes. In 2014. How did I miss that? Used to listen to that podcast, though probably stopped before that.



I remember at the time being less than surprised at the charges. Dunning always felt a little off to me, even though I did enjoy his podcast.

Do as I say not as I do.

To be fair Paypal got spun out in 2015, far before they bought Honey, so there actually isn't any point in time where eBay was engaged in cookie stuffing.



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