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Ah... the league of 'liberal democracies' where blasphemy is still a prosecuted crime. So very liberal.

It's also insane that you place Japan in the realm of this alliance while Hungary is kicked out. Japan is significantly more ethno-nationalist than Hungary ever could be.



Also, why do you feel threatened by like-minded countries taking care of their own security?

The right way for you is only if they are bullied without complaint?

Perhaps you'd prefer an alliance where authoritarian tendencies are celebrated rather than scrutinized?

Or maybe you just find democracies protecting themselves too... inconvenient?


You are confusing bemusement for being threatened.


Interesting how you overlook Japan's strong judicial independence, press freedom, and regular peaceful transitions of power to focus on ethno-nationalism.

Meanwhile, Hungary systematically dismantles judicial independence, crushes media freedom, and rewrites electoral rules to entrench single-party rule - but sure, they're the real liberals here.

The proposed alliance isn't claiming perfect members - it's establishing clear, measurable standards through indices *like* WJP Rule of Law. If Japan doesn't meet the 0.67 threshold, they're out too. That's the whole point: consistent standards applied equally, not convenient exceptions.

But please, continue defending Orbán's "illiberal democracy" while nitpicking flaws in actual functioning democracies. That's definitely a coherent position.


In these 'democracies' you can be jailed for online comments lol.


Exactly - in Hungary and Russia!


In the same league as the UK and Germany. This is why I don't support unfettered American alignment with these countries. There is no major country as liberal as the United States.


…Russia is in the same democratic league as Germany and the UK? :D

I mean, how bad faith can you be?

UK and Germany prosecute hate speech with due process. Russia and Hungary jail critics of the government.

If you can't tell the difference, you're not actually interested in freedom.

Strange how your concern for free speech only applies to democracies, never to the dictatorships silencing journalists permanently.

Did YOU say something you shouldn’t have to get the weekend shift at the troll farm?


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