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Your position is self-refuting: you are dismissing philosophy, yet simultaneously making philosophical claims in doing so-claiming that all knowledge is empirical is itself a philosophical claim (empiricism)



This is a philosophical argument, therefore dismissible by science.

Unless you can rephrase your argument as something testable, it's philosophy and thereby not relevant.


> This is a philosophical argument, therefore dismissible by science.

The claim I just made - that dismissing philosophy on empirical grounds is self-refuting because it relies on the philosophical position of empiricism - is not “dismissible by science” - there is no experiment or observation capable of proving or disproving that claim.

Also, the assumption you seem to be making - that all genuine knowledge comes from empirical science - can be countered with the argument that mathematical theorems (e.g. those of Gödel) are true and can he known to be true, but they are not known or knowable by means of empirical science

> Unless you can rephrase your argument as something testable, it's philosophy and thereby not relevant.

What you just said is not testable, hence by its own terms is philosophy and thereby not relevant - it condemns itself as irrelevant


You're missing the point - your claim of "hypothesis has to be testable otherwise can be dismissed" is itself philosophical (philosophy of science). You're claiming that your claim can be dismissed.


There's no contradiction. Philosophy is something everybody does after a beer. No point in pretentding that it's a relevant profession for hundreds of years already.


Philosophy can be safely ignored until you start making philosophical mistakes.


There's no such thing as philosophical mistake because there's no correct philosophy.


There is such a thing as a philosophical mistake – almost everyone agrees that logical positivism was a failure, despite the fact that there was a period in the 1950s when it was all the rage in philosophy departments in the English-speaking world.

There are still a few philosophers who will try to raise logical positivism from the dead – but even they'll all acknowledge that in its classic formulation it doesn't work, so any attempt to do so will require significant revisions.

Philosophers may never agree on who is right, but sometimes they can reach a consensus on who is wrong.




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