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People have a concept of corporate jobs that is just plain wrong. You are nothing but slave labor. You are treated well only as long as you are needed. But when that is not true, you will be treated for what you are.

You might think this is an anti-corporation view. But the truth is that corporation have become anti-people. Is Purdue Pharma the friend of the people they addicted to ? Is Starbucks the friend of the baristas they squeeze to make a profit?

Some of the "best", as in wealthiest corporations, treat people with contempt. Here's looking at you apple, amazon, google, facebook and microsoft.

Since Citizens United vs FEC these companies now "lobby" to get what they want and have corrupted what should be our democracy into a corpocracy. Union busting Amazon controls one of the major sources of information in the US. How much does microsoft owe in taxes now? How much money is off shore?

Corporations are an outdated, ineffective form of economic collaboration. They are designed to make profit at any cost to customers and employees. Colonialism anyone? And boy, are they stupid. Greedy, ruthless, but stupid.

Supposedly there are a bunch of technically skilled folks here on HN. Maybe they should start thinking about alternatives to corporation style jobs.






I like how Richard Branson does things at Virgin. I have tried to adopt similar practices in mine. Basically we do our best to move you around to somewhere else, but you are never fired. It works really well for us.

> You are nothing but slave labor

This is an absurd and out of touch thing to say to a crowd mostly made up of highly paid engineers.


This is a very negative to look at employment in general:

Whatever the skill - pushing rocks up a hill or pushing code into a repo - someone with power over you is taking half your waking day to generate disproportionate compensation.

I personally see the alternative viewpoint which is I am able to provide for my entire family a life of non-work because I sacrifice 50% of what would be idle time without them.

Ultimately you need something to do during your waking hours. I give 50% to the company and 50% to my family.


Historically the slaves of the ultrawealthy often lived much better lives than common free people.

No it is not, just because one slave is paid more than another slave it does not make the former a less of a slave.

But it's good that you think that way. Keeps the system going. We need more of you guys.


I know what you mean, but a 500K software engineering job doesn't seem to match what you say...

Doesnt it? It requires a $180,000~ minimum to get by as a family of 4 including 2 kids in San Francisco according to statistics. Before taxes and unexpected expenses and other things. And VERY few people get that $500k. The rest get shafted by the system like others.

The zero-sum competition for housing absorbs any wage level you throw at it. If you can fault the employer for something in this scenario, it is for locating the role in the Bay Area. Which they would tell you is a concession to the existing talent pool.

It's not about fault. It's about business. Corporations have no moral obligation to you and you have no moral obligation to corporations.

500k/y jobs are not common and as such the vast majority of us are not making that much.



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