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I just bought a used 2023 Nissan Leaf.

Fully EV, real buttons and knobs, and of course the model is cancelled.

The original tracking was 2G cellular, later updated to 3G cellular. 2G is long depricated, and 3G is already shutdown in many places.

This is a great car! Which explains why it's no longer available. It doesn't meet modern american needs, like being at least as large as a small building, or having 0 visibility over the hood, or costing at least $75K. (p.s. I paid $15K for mine, with 18K miles on the odometer and 150 miles of battery range)

But if you're into retro, like buttons and knobs, I highly recommend it...

p.s. I have to wonder if the data breach doesn't affect ICE cars as well? Would they use a separate surveilance system?




I bought a used '14 Leaf in '16. It has been a great car with very little battery degradation. Sure, I'm not going to be taking it on any long trips, but for 90% of my driving it is great. I paid $11k for it. Best car purchase I've made in 30+ years of car ownership.


That's amazing considering 2023 was only last year.


I've owned two LEAFs. Fantastic vehicle. I only got rid of it when I realized all the cars around me were only getting bigger and heavier, and I felt I needed to get an SUV to defend myself against that.




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