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That's intentional as well, because then you can label organized resistance as terrorism and get international support for genociding a country.


Your order of operations is off.

Ukrainian military did not go into Kazantip[0] and surrounding villages in Crimea to kill and rape rave-goers and families.

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaZantip


What are you on about? I made a general statement about authoritarian regimes and genocides and ideology.

Gaza, Sudan, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Syria, Myanmar, China, Ethiopia, Ukraine, you name it. We have several active genocides and government-led terror campaigns built upon projection and manufactured consent.

I literally made no claims about Ukrainian soldiers doing anything. Did you respond to the right comment? Your link just goes to a Wikipedia page on a music festival, with zero information relating to your comment.


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No, Nderitu was fired because their own application of the word genocide did not meet the UN's requirements. Your logic is backwards.

Nice try at denialism, though. Your words are easily reversed. Israel hates Palestine for existing. And the US-Israeli military industrial complex blame the Israeli attacks on Palestinians on the Palestinians, every day, like you're doing right now.

Probably best to just leave it at that, it's going to take a while to get your foot out of your mouth.


the Israelis don't hate Palestinians for existing, what are you talking about? they let them work in Israel, they gave them health care in Israel, they provided food, electricity and water from Israel.

they hate hamas for attacking them. if they wanted to get rid of the Palestinians, it would be cheaper to carpet bomb them - not use precision weapons and send in their own forces to get killed.

if this is a genocide, then it's the least effective one in history - both in the number of people killed and in the fraction of the population killed.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-u-ns-anti-israel-genocide-pu...

she refused, correctly, based on her extensive experience researching crimes against humanity, to call the war in Gaza a genocide (one where the supposed genicidal regime provides free food, water and electricity to the supposed victims).

let's leave it at that.


I said Israel. The country, run by Zionists like Netanyahu. I make no generalizations or claims of any individual Israeli or group of them.

I also condemn Hamas.

> precision weapons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_St...

> As of January 2024, researchers at Oregon State University and the City University of New York estimated that as much as 50–62% of all buildings in the Gaza Strip had been damaged or destroyed. Meanwhile, Israel has claimed only 16% of Gaza buildings were destroyed.

Precision weapons? You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous. Do some basic research on the extent of damage in the Gaza strip. The way in which civilians are systematically targeted and executed. Schools, hospitals. Journalists. Medics. Everyone is getting caught up in the crossfire. Women and babies are dying every day. Hundreds of entire family lines wiped out forever. Poverty, starvation, infection. Cultural alienation. Mass, indiscriminate death. Drones which broadcast the sounds of screaming, injured people, and then vaporize curious Palestinians.

This is one of the most well-documented colonial actions in the history of the world. Touch grass. Look at some pictures and videos, if nothing else.


yes, even Sinwar had a UN employee's passport with him when he died - if his body couldn't be identified, you'd have been claiming him as an innocent civilian UN teacher doctor.

When hamas operatives die, they transubstantiate into civilians.

does "let's leave it at that" only apply when you've said your piece?

all they had do to was not attack Israel.


> all they had do to was not attack Israel.

Who? The 45,418 killed Palestinians and countless more maimed? Take a hike.


Oh you're peddling the "UN" numbers that they repeat from Hamas, where every dead fighter turns into a civilian? Take a running jump.


I can't argue with someone who chooses to selectively believe reality and institutions of authority according to their biases.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-ham...

Of course you might argue that Al Jazeera's Middle Eastern affiliations prevent them from giving unbiased coverage. Even though that would discredit every single Palestinian journalist. I honestly don't give a hoot if you keep your head in the sand.


I'm sorry, did I give the impression that I trust the UN when it comes to Israel?


The problem is you don't seem to have a well-developed trust model. Trusting authority isn't even needed because of all of the grassroots journalism coming out of Gaza. Trust is what people with underdeveloped research and information processing skills do. You don't need to trust anything. Verify. Corroborate. But it's also important to recognize when large groups of governments are coming together to condemn an activity.

Groups of people are dying left and right across the globe, persecuted, raped and killed for both ideological and capitalistic reasons, and there is absolutely no excuse for any of it. It takes two seconds to confirm with your own eyes what is happening to civilians in Gaza.


> Groups of people are dying left and right across the globe, persecuted, raped and killed for both ideological and capitalistic reasons,

and for some reason it's only a genocide when one loses a war against Israel.


Not singluar in the least.

The official declaration of a Gaza genocide is contemporous with the Masalit genocide and both come after the Rohingya genocide declaration.

Even various actions of Russia wrt Ukranians have been declared war crimes and crimes against humanity.


"Even various actions of Russia wrt Ukranians have been declared war crimes and crimes against humanity."

yes that's because Ukraine doesn't build munitions depots under schools and hospitals. remember when Israel was said to have bombed a hospital, it turned out the rocket came from hamas, was launched from the hospital and landed in the parking lot.

a lot of the stories that you read online are basically made up, or greatly exaggerated, but you seem very keen to believe them if a Jew can be claimed to have been implicated.


> but you seem very keen to believe them ..

Really?

I've made no statement here other than to assert that several events have been officially declared as genocides in the past decade.

This is a factually true assertion.

You can verify that each of the events has been declared as such for yourself by checking the official UN statements on each.

If you disagree with their declarations about, for instance, the Rohingya genocide then you can write a strong letter disagreeing with their lengthy report.

It remains a fact that each event listed above has been described as a genocide by multiple counties, humanitarian groups, the UN, etc.


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It's unclear what this has to do with my rebuttal of your statement:

> and for some reason it's only a genocide when one loses a war against Israel.

Clearly there are numerous officially declared genocides other than the one you seem fixated upon.

> you seem very keen to believe them if a Jew can be claimed to have been implicated.

> so that people like you will condemn Israel for existing and defending themselves.

You're blinding painting with a broad brush here, I'm a little more specific than a general cartoon dislike of Israel and Jews.

Eugene Finkel, a Jewish Holocaust scholar, declared Russian actions wrt Ukraine to be genocidal and went into some detail. His criteria for that declaration, when applied to the actions of the current government of Israel, make the same case against Isareli actions in Gaza.

* https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-buch...

* https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2...

* https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2023/11/21/finkel...


unwra has been working with hamas the whole time: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/world/middleeast/hamas-un...




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