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The good guys/bad guys dynamic has always been slightly wrong. You have imperialists oppressing foreign powers, political incumbants oppressing dissidents, and so on, but despite all that, a hierarchy exists, and helping the top helps everyone under that umbrella of power to some degree. There is certainly nuance to talk about, but it's more right than wrong to be supportive of the power structure you inhabit, generally.



what if the power structure you are under hates you and wants you to die?


That's nuance to talk about, surely, but do they? Did you threaten the NSA's spying capability with some novel encryption or something?


I don't think they really "want" you to die; it's just that their priorities do not align with your well-being. Consequently, their actions negatively impact the welfare you could have enjoyed if this power structure prioritized your needs more. Allocating billions to Ukraine and Israel doesn't necessarily directly worsen your situation per se, but it is one of the reasons why the state can only provide $750 USD to families affected by Hurricane Milton if they applications go through.


I don't think the hurricane Milton support has any relation to arms funding in Ukraine and Israel.

The hurricane victims don't get money because Americans don't want the government to pay disaster assistance, and military aid is given because Americans like buying guns.

You could drop military spending to zero, and there would still be peanuts paid out for disaster relief.

There is some limit where the US runs out of money to spend on anything, but we're already long past a balanced budget, and instead the government spends whatever it wants, and the debt ticker goes up


What do you mean by its more right than wrong to be supportive of the power structure you inhabit, generally?

Are you saying ethics is conditional on who is above you in the power chain?


I meant that order is good, not really that ethics are conditional. There are exceptions where I'd say go ahead and foment rebellion, be obstinate, etc.


Yep. Not being supportive of the power structure you inhabit is what killed humanities natural Red Team which is why capitalism developed so slow and consumer culture turned into whatever it is now.

The new Red Team is just a sparring partner now, accomplice to any crime and lie and money laundering scheme, hacking away at their passions, in the peaceful bliss of compartmentalisation.

Which is fine. A pseudo behavioural lock-in is still a lock-in. The people decided. False numbers on available resources, false reports on foreign affairs, supporting brutally corrupt countries to destabilise regions where humans still have the innate ability to arrive at better ways to do things and build a culture that is actually worth millions of years of survival, and the list goes on and on.

But you have to simulate whats possible to prepare for the worst, and the inner circles are way ahead so whenever the public gets some pieces of info, know that any criticism lags behind.

Which is why it's so important to hack away at your institutions, corporations and individuals in relevant networks. Their systems and jobs have to get harder, faster, stronger, smarter and that requires radical criticism so that

a) the job description only fits the best, and

b) the job environment doesn't disgust the best.

Neither of which is currently true.

But people are fighting good causes and if you can 're-compartmentalise' for a bit, throw in some brain and gpu power to go against your benefactors. For the sake of the betterment of their successors.


Criticism is one form of support, yes! Despite my previous post sounding pretty sympathetic to kowtowing... It bugs me when people don't get that. The so called free world was built on antifragility.


> sounding pretty sympathetic to kowtowing

It didn't. I was born into and grew up in a spot 'betwixt and between', with much of what I need to become successful, rich & powerful but at the same feeling so damn disgusted by the ways of the people I'd have to deal with that I would rather not support them at all. That nonsense got amplified by leftist bullshit, trusting people I shouldn't have.

Then I got diagnosed with ADHD and a proper analysis of my psyche and my life revealed that my only issue was to get 'friends' when I should have stayed at home hacking away at stuff. They were earlier more aware/conscious and I let myself get dragged to parties, liquor and mild drugs but that Rausch was enough for my hyperactive imagination to lose any sense for accomplishment and the concrete things I could actually do to get into the right positions to make change happen and shape my environment to my (obviously better) tastes.

So every time I read "support your gov.", my brain goes 'grrrr' and triggers an avalanche of emotions and rationalisations that end in "it's all super-gay Mafia hierarchies and there's nothing you can do because all of 'dem gays' are too fragile to withstand the pressure of being an actual man". ( I'm not homophobic, back in the day it meant nothing but submissive, ass licking, it was metaphorical )

So my previous post is meant to encourage myself and others to not get pulled into these hierarchies as obedient participants and beneficiaries but as competitors, breaking, hacking and fixing all the weak spots in these hierarchies and systems.

Young people don't care and the kids from my year turned into people I definitely won't raise my kids with. And it's all because of pseudo-antifragility that comes with kowtowing like a soldier.




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