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> “The autonomous vehicles, we’re going to stop from operating on American roads, remember this,” Trump said.




Well, apart from tax cuts for the rich he never followed through with anything he said and his voters will never hold him accountable for anything, ever, so you can safely ignore every thing he says.


“Can’t trust anything” is not the same as “can safely ignore everything”. There’s nothing safe about it.


Abortion is now illegal in dozens of states.


Wasn't that due to the supreme court deciding it wasn't up to the federal government?


Who nominates the justices to the US Supreme Court?


De jure or de facto?

One of the judges died in Obama's term, and senators explicitly declared they would not consider any nomination he made:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/history-stolen-suprem...



What a legacy. He achieved so much.


He is going to say exact opposite in a month and flip again and again until he does whatever random thing will ensure him random thing he wants in the moment.


Good. They don't work, and they wont work. We are a decade into the hype cycle on 'cars that have self' and the proponents are stuck pretending that their best case demo, which is always going to crash into stupid stuff that a human would easily understand (in it's highly tested and constrained route) has 'self' to preserve.


This is a reductive and far-too-pessimistic take when Waymo is completing more than 14,000 driverless trips per DAY and has completed over 15 million miles of driverless trips.

That's not a "best case demo": it's a real system, working in real world environments, and even if they're "constrained" (and go ahead and look at the Phoenix service area and tell me how constrained it really is), they are functioning, now, today. There's one driving by my house as I type this. It's not mowing down children. It's not causing fatal accidents. Its incident rate is dramatically lower than human drivers, and its severe injury rate is lower still. We're a decade into the hype cycle because of how hard a problem this is to solve, and we're finally catching up with the right confluence of technologies at the right time (mostly around machine learning, machine vision, sensor fusion, LIDAR, reinforcement training, and computer power) to make it actually work.

I can understand if you live outside a Waymo market that you might still believe this is still fairy tale "won't work" stuff, but when you live in a market where you see dozens of them every single day, doing their thing _unremarkably_, it's... well, it feels quite a bit like the future.

Note that I'm speaking explicitly of Waymo here. Tesla FSD still terrifies me, vision-only seems like a horrible oversight, pun intended, and while it's meant to be non-constrained, it still has a very, very far way to go to close the gap with Waymo.


It wouldnt work even if you asserted a perfect record. The result is taking a robust fault (emergency) tolerant system and converting it into a fragile one without so much as a steering wheel.

Your Waymo will stop when you dont want to.


Just days after Musk appeared and spoke strongly in favour of him at a Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania [1]. These are interesting times and people make very strange bed follows.

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/style/elon-musk-donald-tr...

Then again, can we trust a word the man is saying? It all feels like shallow pandering. Plus, it may be worth going through the entire event at the Detroit Economic Club [2] to check the quote more clearly as at least one source quotes him as referencing PRC car automation with that statement, while expressing some general personal scepticism of autonomous driving [3].

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km-gQhP5fnw

[3]: https://qz.com/donald-trump-self-driving-cars-avs-musk-tesla...


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Reading any HN thread connected to Musk is so annoying because all the political obsessives come out and crapflood the thread with rants about "manbabies."


Imagine what it was like just a couple of years ago when these threads would be flooded with "he's trying to save the world, what have you done?" type comments.


It'd be like criticizing Rudy Giuliani in 2002.


The fault of that lies with Musk who has been trying endlessly to turn everything into a culture war.


Reading anything connected to Musk is annoying because he crapfloods the internet being a manbaby.


Well its true. We can use other terms but they describe underlying fact of a brilliant but deeply troubled person with serious mental issues and sometimes infantile emotional reactions. Plus a horrible parent. The times when such successful persons were unanimously celebrated and their flaws were ignored are luckily over for good.

Call it what you like, this is reality that very few are happy about. Imagine if this guy would be more mentally and emotionally stable, how further he could actually get. And the respect he could actually achieve. Its a sad view, really.

The thing is, people's failures define them and their legacy 100x more than their successes. Nobody cares how loyal friend say Epstein was (ie to Trump), do we.


I would counter and say that Musk's flaws are what allow his greatness. You don't get someone that effective without serious tradeoffs.

Not many people could have created SpaceX. Even fewer could have made Tesla work. I don't know that anyone else could have done both.


Imagine if every time someone brought up something about Linux the thread was full of people doing psychoanalysis of Linus Torvalds instead of actually talking about the features of the new release. Imagine how useless those threads would be. Your post is an example of this with regards to Tesla.


Reading HN threads ranting about “manbabies” when referring to arguably the single greatest innovator and entrepreneur of our time was not on my bingo card on a site purporting to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.


So, going back on topic, how is the robotaxi business going, that Musk promised you could start 2020? His success relies on delusional people believing his bs. No amount of real world facts will convince his followers he was wrong, as you just publicly displayed.




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