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Before you make too many assumptions:

> The block comes after public outrage in Turkey caused by the murder of two women by a 19-year-old man in Istanbul this month. Content on social media showed Discord users subsequently praising the killing.

This is what would happen anywhere else in the world, see the last incident between France and telegram




> This is what would happen anywhere else in the world

On every single large social media platform, people praise and applaud the death of individuals and entire races of people, all the time. Yet Facebook, Twitter and related sites aren't blocked in most of the world. What's up with that?


Nope.

If murder or terrorism happened in France or UK and a social media platform refused to assist the authorities, There. Would. Be. Consequences.


Your first post did not indicate discord refused to assist authorities, but that users praised a violent act.


Indeed. GP's original post - ironically prefaced with "Before you make too many assumptions" - implied the reasoning was something entirely unrelated to what it actually was about.


HN rules are that I should assume you read the article.


I did read the article. I'm just pointing out the likely reason that all these comments seem to be talking past one another.

The quote you chose doesn't seem to reinforce the point you are making.


Technically there's nothing saying that in the guidelines.


I suspect it was meant tongue in cheek, I had a good chuckle with it when I read it.


> Yet Facebook, Twitter and related sites aren't blocked in most of the world. What's up with that?

You don't want to upset people from the capital (Washington). /s


> This is what would happen anywhere else in the world

lmao wtf no it wouldn't. Truth Social is used literally every day (by some) to call for the assassination of politicians belonging to the Democractic party, the party currently in power, and it has not been banned.

Maybe Erdogan and the rest of Turkey should grow a slightly thicker skin.


However, you still see the US banning non-US controlled social media, eg. TikTok. Silly dances and cat videos are are too much for the American government 's skin, when they can say no to the NSA and FBI


I would not take their stated reasons seriously.

They seem not to be a fan of social media in general, and have blocked a long list of social media sites. They even blocked Wikipedia until their constitutional court overturned the ban.


That’s absolutely true.

It’s also true that they do have a point in this unfortunate event.

Both can be true.


This is ridiculous, if any platform on which "users praised _illegal things_" were banned every single website in the world would be banned.

> This is what would happen anywhere else in the world, see the last incident between France and telegram

Telegram wasn't banned in France

There is a (very wide) spectrum between full censorship due to a few "users" and complete freedom to the point of being the backbone of illegal cartels


That’s because they had access to the founder and threatened him imprisonment.

And why does everyone who replies to me leave behind the main point on the article?

It’s not “just” people said something’s here. It’s that in response to a very real crime , the authorities were denied assistance by the platform.

It’s like saying that telegram was in trouble because people said some stuff. Nope, telegram in trouble for not cooperating with the government.


'a very real crime". Is celebrating a murder, a real crime? I know INCITING is in most places. How about laughing about it? Minimizing it? Making. jokes about? Having a conspiracy theory about it? I don't know Turkey' s laws, but I suspect almost all of these are legal in free speech oriented places.


> ... every single website in the world would be banned.

Doesn't seem to be even slightly true, as not every website in the world has that crap.




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