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> There is always a comment saying Apple is much worse than people think compared to Facebook or Google. But there are never any Sources

I'm not sure about much worse. It may depend on your own threat model. But here you go:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41184153

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40006508

https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26644216




One of those links is a self-described conspiracy theory and another flat out says Google is worse.

Personally, I don’t think Apple is bad at all relative to Google/Meta and I’m probably technically “wrong” but those links don’t do much to prove it.


Perhaps you should be more specific about the links, then I could reply to you.

> and another flat out says Google is worse

This one I can guess. Google is worse indeed, except they do not advertise themselves as "Android is privacy". This is why Apple is worse.


Did you not read your own links before posting them lol?

> Mind you, this is definitionally a conspiracy theory; please don’t let the connotations of that phrase bias you, but please feel free to read this (and everything else on the internet) as critically as you wish.

https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...

I will admit that this sentence was easy to miss, hidden deeply at the start of the second sentence of the piece.

These links are just all Apple Does A Thing HN Dislikes and I just don’t think any of those things is particularly bad.


This is a conspiracy theory in terms of the Apple's intent. Everything written in the article is true and verifiable.

> I just don’t think any of those things is particularly bad

If it's fine with you that Apple sends info about every file you open on you Mac to their servers, read the corresponding discussion. The comments explain well why it's a serious privacy breach.


Yes, there are plenty of thing in my life that I think about more than what Apple knows about the files I open. I can’t change it and it doesn’t help me to get twisted up in knots about it so I don’t worry about it.


> I can’t change it

Switching to Linux worked for me.


Good point. I should say that I have no interest in putting in the effort to change it since I really like my MacBook Air, iPad Pro, and iPhone.




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