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Fortunately yt-dlp and all of it's fancy front ends are still free. I enjoy YouTube commercial-free.



My most used YouTube premium feature is pausing on my phone and picking up where I left off on my Apple TV. It's more than just ad free watching.


Or just consuming Youtube videos on demand from my phone in general.


FYI, this happened to the original yt-dl :C

> Access denied. Due to a ruling of the Hamburg Regional Court, access to this website is blocked.

https://youtube-dl.org

https://openjur.de/u/2466945.html

If you'd just get API access with the paid plan, man...


It's questionable for how long that will be the case. The web frontends break often as YT changes, sometimes to intentionally prevent their usage. Piped has been showing the message "Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot" for months now[1].

I've seen similar issues with yt-dlp, though they've been temporary so far, and the team is quicker to work around them. But it's only a matter of time until YT decides this is enough of a nuisance for them and blocks these completely. It would be trivial to do so, and workarounds could be very annoying to impossible.

[1]: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/issues/3658


I... had one? video that wouldn't play on my Invidious instance, but I haven't had any other problems for months. No ads, and it just. works.


It's not like all the content creators should be paid right?


No, because YouTube screws both us _and_ the creators.


How is this not just the KenM bit where he brags about not tipping the pizza delivery guy to get back at Papa Johns Pizza?


Sure, keep telling yourself that to justify your freeloading.


I pay creators directly all the time (for all media, not just videos), so this confusingly common sentiment is irrelevent to me.

With that out of the way; I would gleefully see YouTube disappear before I paid them a cent. Throwing money at something until all of your real competition goes out of business is exactly the kind of behaviour you would expect of the type of company that then takes advantage of their new position to screw people over.


If YouTube really minded freeloaders, they would put the whole video catalog behind a paywall.

But, they won't do it, because the 99 % (source: my behind) of people who don't pay for YouTube give it extreme social relevance. If they turned the site into an exclusive, paid club, another tech giant (Amazon? ByteDance?) would roll out a competitor in a week and would take the "biggest free video catalog" spot instead of Google, and they would do it happily. The biggest obstacle to doing that and trying to compete right now, network effects, would be instantly gone.

As such, I believe Google's appetite for jacking up the subscribers' price is much larger than their willingness to gamble the site's social capital. YouTube is massive in terms of its cultural impact over the last two decades and I am not saying Google isn't stupid enough to risk this legacy if they were really hurting financially, but I can't imagine the current circumstances with the current percentage of ad-blocking and the current ratio of subscribers to non-subscribers or the loss Google incurs running YouTube (which I am not even sure there is any anymore) are even in the same numerical system as the values it would take for Google to consider doing anything real with the so called "freeloaders".


This so much. People who use any form of ad or popup blocking are delusional if they think they are not freeloaders.


I'm happy to be a freeloader on YouTube, and any other public website. Including this one.


That's fine, just know that you are not as ethical as paxys and I. Both of us use Microsoft Edge with all tracking/ad/popup blocking turned off because we believe in supporting every website and ad network that so graciously provided us content to enjoy.


Is this satire?


Either that or from a troll-farm.


They do, but YouTube has plenty of excuses to not pay them regardless.


For me it is the only way to enjoy YT because regular videos except streams use to freeze for me in browser from time to time recently even with enough number of frames cached.


That's like me saying, well who cares that movie prices are going up, I get all on the TPB. Not exactly something to brag about.


Oh please. They're a DVR, not piracy.


I've been looking at this with the recent invidious blocking sadness.

Any pointers for your setup?



how long before google kills it, though?




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