You don't have to trust SpaceX. You have to trust " TCEQ, the FAA, and the U.S. ...

foobarqux · 2024-09-10T16:40:29 1725986429

Contrary to what SpaceX has claimed USFWS does not regulate industrial waste water discharge (unsurprisingly). The TCEQ has said they are in violation. FAA has paused launches pending an investigation. Both should have done this many months ago.

In any case with respect to existing contamination the only thing I would trust is an independent third party testing lab testing the water with the data made public. I don't know why you would want anything else.

bryanlarsen · 2024-09-10T16:42:59 1725986579

Their violations are:

1. They misplaced a decimal point when transferring a value from the lab report to the summary

2. They filled in the wrong form. They paid a $2000 fine for this violation.

The lab reports are public.

foobarqux · 2024-09-10T16:59:15 1725987555

This is just false. They don't have a permit to discharge water.

bryanlarsen · 2024-09-10T17:11:43 1725988303

The permit number is WQ0016342001.

foobarqux · 2024-09-10T17:14:55 1725988495

That is not an industrial waster water permit.

https://www.threads.net/@esg.hound/post/CzvTxp-uZe8

"That is for a domestic wastewater permit (toilet water treatment)"

bryanlarsen · 2024-09-10T17:21:11 1725988871

As I said further up, they filled in the wrong form.

They have a permit that is more restrictive than the permit they need.

foobarqux · 2024-09-10T17:24:04 1725989044

Industrial waste water permits are not less restrictive than domestic waste water. They could not have "filled in the wrong form" because they need a domestic waste water permit as well.

bryanlarsen · 2024-09-10T17:35:37 1725989737

A permit for an average daily flow of 200,000 gallons.

jiggawatts · 2024-09-10T20:46:11 1726001171

Okay, right then, let’s cancel humanity’s ascendancy to the stars.

Someone filled out the wrong form.

Stop the whole thing. Abandon the cosmos. Just stay here.

Some bureaucrats weren’t satisfied.

foobarqux · 2024-09-10T23:08:34 1726009714

Or Musk could have just applied for the permit last year like every other launch facility seemingly does without any problem.

deadlydose · 2024-09-11T00:12:45 1726013565

They need to apply for a new permit any time there are changes to the craft. So every launch.

jiggawatts · 2024-09-11T04:30:57 1726029057

Also, these permits can't be applied for ahead of time for new technology that is still being developed.

I regularly face this issue in IT circles, where I'm supposed to have a time machine to compensate for the multi-month forewarning everyone else needs.