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I’ve been using Brave since Google announced they were going to do this. Blocking is built in and they support ublock origin with manifest v2 “for now” https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/



Psst, Brave is adware


As a daily user, I really am curious how you came to this conclusion.

Brave is essentially un-googled chromium with ublock built-in. It's available on windows, Linux, osx, and android. I can't imagine how a reasonable person could consider it "adware."


Last I checked, it serves up ads when installed. Literally the definition of adware.


> it serves up ads when installed. Literally the definition of adware.

It, literally, doesn't. I'm baffled by your misapprehension - brave exists to block ads.


You can buy an ad on Brave here: https://brave.com/brave-ads/


That's for brave's search product (https://search.brave.com/), not its browser.


From the page:

> New tab takeovers:

> Striking, high-definition images that are featured in the Brave new tab image rotation. Advertisers have the opportunity to feature their brand prominently in this coveted space in front of millions of consumers. Designed for high-impact branding and awareness campaigns.

So, the browser.


It's surreal to have to explain to someone in HN how browsers work... You can set your homepage to a URL. If that URL has ads on it, like Google or Bing etc, then you will see ads when you open your browser. If you set your homepage to a URL without ads, you will not see ads. This has been true since Netscape Navigator.


> It's surreal to have to explain to someone in HN how browsers work...

It's surreal that you don't know how your own browser works, and yet you think you're in a position to explain how browsers work.

> You can set your homepage to a URL.

And if you don't, the browser shows you a screen, which is not a webpage, but a screen served from within the browser, which is true in every modern browser. On your favorite browser, that screen contains ads, and you have to configure your browser to stop showing you ads.

What part of the phrase "New Tab Takeover" do you not understand?

If you want to use an adware browser that you have to configure to get rid of the ads, and that gets their money from advertisers so they serve them and not you, nobody can stop you. But it's a bit silly to argue that's not what's happening when Brave themselves are advertising this as a service to their users (advertisers--you're not a user, you're the product).

It's clear you're not going to face reality, and nobody else is reading this at this point, so I won't be responding further.


This is false, and always has been.


You can buy an ad on Brave here: https://brave.com/brave-ads/


That's for brave's search product (https://search.brave.com/), not its browser.


From the page:

> New tab takeovers:

> Striking, high-definition images that are featured in the Brave new tab image rotation. Advertisers have the opportunity to feature their brand prominently in this coveted space in front of millions of consumers. Designed for high-impact branding and awareness campaigns.

So, the browser.


It's surreal to have to explain to someone in HN how browsers work... You can set your homepage to a URL. If that URL has ads on it, like Google or Bing etc, then you will see ads when you open your browser. If you set your homepage to a URL without ads, you will not see ads. This has been true since Netscape Navigator.


Brave seemed normal for days/weeks then one day randomly started giving me hourly crypto spam notifications. I had remove it's permission to send notifications.


So is Firefox.


Firefox does not have crypto built-in. And we have Librewolf instead of Firefox


Really? I haven’t seen any.


I've been using Brave for a good couple of years, and the only ads I see are when I open a new, fresh tab, and I don't find that it gets in my way at all. I open a new tab to immediately put an address into the navbar.

Most of the "new tab" ads are pictures, and any branding is generally way down the bottom, a screen's depth away from the navbar where my attention goes.

I'm relatively militantly anti-advertising and I barely notice it (but maybe I'm losing my edge - no pun intended).


brave is the most shady. at least google microsoft tells you while they spy on you. brave has:

installed a vpn with a running service without telling its window users in an update. also made it reinstall every update until they got called out and users kept complainiong. i mean they did eventually..

if you use brave search without the brave browser they would turn on on the send analytics option back on no matter what you do. ofc this was in secret like after you reopened the browser etc. every other setting would save.

the most popular privacy browser comparing site is owned by a brave employee. it was almost impossible to find this disclosure but they since have made it a bit more easier to spot. still the way they do tests is pretty sus. like testing out the box when they know they have a blocker and certain important settings on

etc etc. i mean i guess its not so surprising their job is hiding thing.

i used to use brave. even when i switched off i used brave search default. but the fact i couldnt turn off analytics, or more so they fact they made it look like i could turn it off made me never lose the last amount of respect i had for those guys. i mean i dont even care about privacy anymore really, i use edge. its just the shadiness that turns me off


>militantly anti-advertisting

>I see [ads] when I open a new, fresh tab

These two things don't seem to go together. I open a new tab >100 times a day. I'm not willing to even see recent sites there, let alone ads! My Firefox new tab page is literally blank.


I literally do not notice it, for me it's equivalent to a blank page. Maybe I've trained myself to ignore it, but that's where I am.

There's no movement or sound, and it doesn't get in the way when all I'm doing is creating a new tab to then chuck a URL into the navbar and load up the page.


Brave is “militantly anti-advertising” because it hides everyone else’s ads to make room for its own.


Well, you just described the definition of adware--your defense of it is that it's easy-to-ignore adware?


I barely even notice it and it doesn't slow me down in any way. That works for me.

If that's where Internet advertising settles, then I might actually be OK with that. And there's plenty that I'm a long way from OK with.


I mean, that's your prerogative, but why settle for ads at all? Especially from a browsers that blocks ads from advertisers who don't pay them?


So what's a good alternative for Android and Windows/Linux usage? I've tried Opera, Vivaldi and Firefox and disliked them for one reason or another.


Honestly, firefox.

I've had numerous performance and memory issues with Firefox but from my testing over the years it's the closest to Chrome/Chromium you can get.

Also Firefox gets new features fairly regularly. It's still an "innovative" browser, as opposed to Chromium which is mostly stagnant. Vertical tabs are pretty cool.

Personally, I just got to like Firefox over time.


Tell you what, I'm going have a crack at Firefox as my primary. It used to be a long while ago, not really sure when / why I switched.

It is more true to my ideals.


You can disable those. There's a few options for the new tab screen--I just use a solid color.


Everything about Brave seems solid aside from the CEO.




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