No utility you say? i’d argue all of this is relevant to consumers and/or businesses in europe:
• Microsoft windows
• microsoft office (excel, etc)
• google search
• google maps
• gmail and yahoo mail
• smartphones
• space-x (affordable satellite launches - for accurate weather forecasts and GPS)
• OpenAI (pioneering LLM’s from a product perspective)
• Visa and Mastercard networks
• AWS / Azure / GCP
• Adobe (photoshop, etc)
• Zoom / Webex (Skype is an exception, created in europe)
• Salesforce
• DocuSign
• AutoCAD
I can list more if you’d like…this was literally off the top of my head. All of these businesses and products were created in the united states, some with VC funding. They employ hundreds or thousands of engineers, product managers, etc. They provide critical business capabilities to businesses around the world. Some are user facing as well.
As far as critical business software Europe has created Skype, SAP, and i think that’s it? From the hardware side, major kudos for ASML and Airbus.
The stuff you read about in the news is focused on bad actors and toxic social media junk. thats a small piece of big tech.
> No utility you say? i’d argue all of this is relevant to consumers and/or businesses in europe:
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> • Microsoft windows
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> • microsoft office (excel, etc)
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> • google search
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> • google maps
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> • gmail and yahoo mail
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> • smartphones
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> • space-x (affordable satellite launches - for accurate weather forecasts and GPS)
>
> • OpenAI (pioneering LLM’s from a product perspective)
>
> • Visa and Mastercard networks
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> • AWS / Azure / GCP
>
> • Adobe (photoshop, etc)
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> • Zoom / Webex (Skype is an exception, created in europe)
>
> • Salesforce
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> • DocuSign
>
> • AutoCAD
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> I can list more if you’d like…this was literally off the top of my head. All of these businesses and products were created in the united states, some with VC funding. They employ hundreds or thousands of engineers, product managers, etc. They provide critical business capabilities to businesses around the world. Some are user facing as well.
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> As far as critical business software Europe has created Skype, SAP, and i think that’s it? From the hardware side, major kudos for ASML and Airbus.
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> The stuff you read about in the news is focused on bad actors and toxic social media junk. thats a small piece of big tech.
Honestly, this comment inadvertently proves the need to quarantine US tech. Almost every product you listed is utter garbage, especially Windows.
There's nothing inherently better about Windows than Linux. Libre Office suit can become much better than MS Office if ot got enough suppoet - support that just goes away to M$ contracts.
Google search has become utter garbage.
Hetzner exists, and more Cloud companies would exist if it weren't for America's Big Tech having a competitive advantage due to their sheer size.
Adobe is a shit company with shit behavior. I'd welcome its implosion anytime. Again, if the billions siphoned away for their licenses was spent on FOSS alternatives, we'd end up with such healthier ecosystem.
Visa and Mastercard are leas innovation and more completely regulated duopoly at this point.
Also, with the exception of SpaceX, I'd gladly welcome the complete implosion of all companies you mentioned. I'd love to watch them burn to cinders, while the world finally breathes free.
ok, but real businesses and governments actually use them to run their business.
How long do you think a typical business would survive without excel? Do you realize how crazy powerful excel is? I hate that tool as an engineer but its utility is immense. I agree windows is junk, yet it somehow ends up in all the critical infrastructure lol. Crazy but that’s what happens. Same with autocad- good luck efficiently designing physical infrastructure like bridges in your country without that tool.
Hetzner is not struggling to compete with AWS or Azure because it’s smaller…it’s because Hetzner has almost no features. They have even less features than DigitalOcean. Hetzner basically offers VPS hosting, elastic block storage, and easy deployment of some common apps. Do they offer any of the building blocks for deploying a high traffic service into production? Or deploying something that requires a lot of distributed components? No. stuff like managed databases, flexible file storage (like S3), and most importantly a managed multi-container deployment. Like fargate, ECS or EKS.
unrelated, i think the LibreOfficr example is interesting. I think it would be difficult to design a competing product because at this time companies pay for a full suite including: outlook, office, sharepoint, etc. and office is available in the browser with realtime multi user editing too! Maybe the LibreOffice project should pivot in that direction? Perhaps they could offer a cheap online version of their products, as a way to fund continued development, while making the desktop version free?
• Microsoft windows
• microsoft office (excel, etc)
• google search
• google maps
• gmail and yahoo mail
• smartphones
• space-x (affordable satellite launches - for accurate weather forecasts and GPS)
• OpenAI (pioneering LLM’s from a product perspective)
• Visa and Mastercard networks
• AWS / Azure / GCP
• Adobe (photoshop, etc)
• Zoom / Webex (Skype is an exception, created in europe)
• Salesforce
• DocuSign
• AutoCAD
I can list more if you’d like…this was literally off the top of my head. All of these businesses and products were created in the united states, some with VC funding. They employ hundreds or thousands of engineers, product managers, etc. They provide critical business capabilities to businesses around the world. Some are user facing as well.
As far as critical business software Europe has created Skype, SAP, and i think that’s it? From the hardware side, major kudos for ASML and Airbus.
The stuff you read about in the news is focused on bad actors and toxic social media junk. thats a small piece of big tech.