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As my dad used to say: being an asshole isn't illegal.



They declined to give Elon Musk control when he offered them a billion to save the company. Instead they turned around and gave up control to Microsoft for billions.

Do you honestly believe that if you were in Elon Musks shoes, that you would have given away a billion dollars without any conditions? How would you feel when you saw them turn around and sell out to Microsoft instead? Expecting $1B unconditionally seems like an asshole expectation. Delusional and childish entitlement.

Do you believe that Microsoft has donated billions to OpenAI unconditionally?


> How would you feel when you saw them turn around and sell out to Microsoft instead?

They did not give up control to Microsoft.

If that were true, the Apple deal (which Microsoft opposed) would not have just happened.


Having Apple dependent on and paying for Microsoft infrastructure is a win for Microsoft. Of course the deal benefits Microsoft as much as Apple.

Microsoft needs Apple as a strong competitor. Otherwise they will be declared a monopoly and broken up by regulators. Microsoft was smart to use OpenAI as a proxy for this deal.


> Having Apple dependent on and paying for Microsoft infrastructure is a win for Microsoft.

LOL!

I would love to see your evidence that Apple's new AI offering will be running on Microsoft's infrastructure.


It was a public announcement. https://openai.com/index/openai-and-apple-announce-partnersh...

OpenAI models run on Azure infrastructure. Apple is just a client and will be paying Microsoft via OpenAI to run it.

Apple also has their own models running on their own infrastructure. I'm not saying that Microsoft or OpenAI has anything to do with that.


That's SO WEIRD. When I load that page, I see no mention of Azure.


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OpenAI's current infrastructure runs on Azure.

Do you have any evidence that their new Apple services will run on Azure?


It's impossible to discuss this with you as you keep changing your comment.

I never once implied it would run on Apple servers. You're putting words in my mouth. I am asking if you have any direct evidence that they'll be running on Azure.

The fact that you keep dodging that question tells me you don't.


> Holy shit you are a fucking moron. I posted direct links to everything.

Holy shit you are a fucking moron! None of your links say anything about Apple's new services.

I think it's safe to say we're not going to find common ground here. You have a nice day.


Sorry for the shit language but I got tired of you not understanding anything.

Apple's services do not run on Azure. Apple's services run on Apple infrastructure.

OpenAI services run on Azure

Apple is a new partner of OpenAI. Apple will use OpenAI services which run on Azure. Hopefully that makes sense. It is not that complicated.


Yeah, I saw a story that backed up your claims after you left. Sorry I didn't just take your word for it - but that's not how it's done, you know? Strangers on the internet sometimes lie. Perhaps you've never encountered it before.

> Sorry for the shit language but I got tired of you not understanding anything.

Yeah, I wish you had actually offered a citation backing up your claims.

But, it was also the fact you kept changing the text of your comment, to remove the things I was addressing. It would have been better if you'd left a record of all the things you said. Like I said, editing your comments after the fact is dishonest.

Back at the beginning of all this, you had said:

> Having Apple dependent on and paying for Microsoft infrastructure is a win for Microsoft.

In the end it turns out Apple isn't paying for Microsoft infrastructure after all.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-12/apple-to-...


I found a non-paywall copy of the article https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/apple-to-pay-openai-for-chatgpt-...

You are still missing the point and I think you have a persistent mental block. You are overthinking it. It's not that complicated.

The article says that Apple is partnering with OpenAI. It also says that OpenAI runs on Azure infrastructure.

Whatever they negotiate, the deal is intended to be a win-win for both sides in the long run. Obviously both sides are interested in making money. The article mentions future revenue sharing agreements and getting more users to subscribe to the paid ChatGPT.

Any increase of OpenAI/ChatGPT usage means an increased usage of (and dependency on) Microsoft/Azure infrastructure. I don't understand how this is so complicated to understand. OpenAI runs on Azure and more OpenAI usage/dependency means more Azure usage/dependency. Microsoft increases their cut of the AI market share as more Apple users use Microsoft infrastructure and of course they will make profit from that. None of these guys are doing it for charity.


OMG.

You are quite something. Have a nice day.


Fuckin hell. It's like asking for a citation that Microsoft owns Azure. Ridiculous.

OpenAI runs on Microsoft servers.

Apple partnered with OpenAI to use their service which runs on Microsoft servers.

Basic facts.


You take care now.


> To answer your question below: Apple is a customer of OpenAI. They are using OpenAI as a service. The OpenAI models won't be running in Apple data centers.

Don't move the goalposts. I asked you if you had evidence that it will run on Azure.


FYI - It's dishonest to keep changing your comment.


This comments belongs in a time capsule.

Microsoft was a breakup risk back when all that existed were computers and they had 95+% market share.


> They declined to give Elon Musk control when he offered them a billion to save the company.

On the contrary, it was the fact Elon pulled the $1B he had previously offered that put the company in jeopardy.

https://www.semafor.com/article/03/24/2023/the-secret-histor...




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