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Every time I read about how online targeted ads have poor returns for advertisers, I think to myself:

"These advertisers know that the ads have low ROI because things are measureable online. How (in)effective would traditional advertisements prove to be, if they were as measurable as their online counterparts? How (in)effective would traditional advertisements prove to be, if they didn't interject themselves into the medium in such grotesque, user-experience destroying ways?"




Two points:

1. There are lots of digital ad tools that have great ROI. No one clicks on ads....until that one time they do. Critics of digital advertising like to hone in on anecdotal examples of online ads failing to support their points. This blog post is a great example of that.

2. Your second point is why Madison Avenue was so horrified by Google when they started selling ads. Tracking the performance of each individual ad was so scary they couldn't fathom it. Online ads are no worse than offline ads, we're just able to measure online ads in ways that we can't with offline.


I agree, but I don't think things always have to be that way. I know a few people working on projects to improve the measurement capabilities for some kinds of off-line advertising.


That's terrific. I suspect the folks selling those products will be hugely resistant at first.


Offline ads for direct response are easily measurable with tracking numbers. Branding ads - well - I have no clue how they track any of that - but then again how do you track a CPM media buy just designed to increase brand awareness online... (note: I come from the DM world).


Always looking to meet DM folks. Drop me an e-mail!


The impact of any kind of advertising is usually easy to measure. Just because online advertising provides more things to measure doesn't mean they're worth measuring. In the end, the only thing that matters is how it affects the bottom line. If you truly have your finger on the pulse of your business, trends are easy to identify.


But advertisers aren't stupid. There must be a rational reason why they keep paying higher prices for traditional ads.


Firstly, they very well could be stupid.

Secondly, it depends what you mean by traditional ads. I loath television and spend far more time on the internet (and don't use adblock) and yet interstitial ads on the tv and radio (and on the net, eg youtube) are far more present in my mind than anything I've seen on the net.

In fact, apart from those silly bottom feeding ads about how some single mom found out some weird old tip and various medical professionals dislike her for it (because they're out to get you? I don't get those ads..) I can't recall a single web ad. I can tell you about Pizza Hut's cheap pizza Tuesdays though.

As for non interstitial ads, like print ads in newspapers, yeah, I imagine they're about as useful as internet ads.


Yeah, humans never erect institutions that allow them to behave in irrational ways en masse.


I'm just guessing here... If ad agencies earn a % of ad spend, it's in their interest to spend more. It's easier to spend more on TV, plus it's difficult to prove it's ineffective. Targeted ads on the 'net may someday be really good, but it would cost less and undermine ad agencies' fat fees.


Agencies, in effect, earn a percentage of the spend. But this amount is determined up front. Clients go to market saying "We have $x for client y and we want to know which shops will give us the most bang for the buck."

Shops that over-promise then fail to maintain reasonable profit margins don't survive. At the same time, there's pressure on clients to work with established players, since a campaign gone bad is even harder to defend when it turns out the the marketing budget was blown on inexpedienced and / or desperate people who were willing to seriously undercut competitors just to land the account.


Measurement adds value, but sometimes the value it adds is that of knowing not to bother using the thing you are measuring any more.




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