What benefit would that have? Even if new versions are not released on a fixed schedule, you don't have to upgrade immediately.

Migration scheduling and planning for total software lifetime. Everything is just smoother on a fixed cadence.

You can do a fixed cadence even if Debian doesn't though. Just every year, upgrade to the new stable if it is available.

Yeah, but now you have your own problems instead of pain shared by millions of other users. A lot of orgs on the same cadence is a great and under-estimated thing. I'm just sayin'

I don't get what you mean, actually. A lot of orgs upgrading simultaneously means that none of them have prior experience to look to. A staggered rollout of new software versions is often viewed as a less risky deployment method.

Whatever problems you will have, you aren’t alone. It’s fine to not prefer this. I do.

What makes you think you'll be alone on Debian? Plenty of people run testing. I don't mean to be argumentative, I simply cannot follow your logic.

I'm fairly sure I'm not insane. :)

For one, there are more people on Ubuntu. I believe, a large part of the reason for that, is the cadence. I don't exactly like Ubuntu and I decided to depart for Debian last year, I had had just about enough of Ubuntu quirks and antics. But I held fast for so long because of the cadence. You can set your corporate schedule on month == April && (year % 4) == 0 and be done with it, for the LTS releases. With Debian you have to be at least a little tuned in to current events. I don't like that, I have other things going on.

Ubuntu also has a cadence to the non LTS. So if you want to study ahead what could break, test your stuff currently deployed on LTS, on the latest regular stable.

This is my que to off on a tangent and remark that easy cloud and Kubernetes (oh dear don't get me started but it's also useful, so what can I say) has made whatever OS runs on the servers less important. But I still care for some things.

And I don't want to run testing. I like to keep just one step behind. Of course, not everyone can be like that or there wouldn't be any experimentation and progress, but there are plenty of other people filling that niche.

Thanks for asking in earnest.

To let you know - you are not alone with such considerations and I completely share the point of massive scale makes sense and cadence makes sense for planning

> I don't exactly like Ubuntu and I decided to depart for Debian last year

Ditto here. Their adding advertising in the cli was the straw that completely broke that camels back (for me).

Wait, what is this?? I am on Kubuntu 22.04 and have never seen any advertising. I might need to pivot if the upgrade is going to hurt.

They are probably referring to the Ubuntu Pro (previously Advantage I believe) notices that appear when you login via SSH or do apt updates. They can be disabled/hidden anyway, but they are still conceptually invasive.

I have never seen them. Odd.

If you don't use the cli for updating systems then you might not see it.

At least, until they expand the advertising to other tools as well.

I mean it's not the same month every time, but it seems to be on a pretty stable 2 year cycle?

Or run debian testing. It's what ubuntu is built from anyway.