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>>The world is a better place for having had more such people in it.

I don't know how to phrase it without it coming across as rude, but like......why? The dude was a hoarder who created a bunch of really mediocre if not downright ugly art in his own apartment. Which part of it exactly is making the world better?




Because he had a vision he was committed to. Even if he didn't execute it with the highest of skill, even if he had other shit going on that he didn't know how to handle... that's not something everybody has. Most of us just go along to get along. Having the courage to find your own purpose and commit to that come what may is rare enough to be celebrated on its own. There's a reason why figures like Wesley Willis and Terry Davis are so beloved.


Because not everybody thinks it's mediocre or downright ugly. You ain't the whole world, your personal judgements are not absolute truths that determine reality. So it's getting better for the people who enjoy it. Your negativity about it notwithstanding.

To be precise: the part you're seemingly unable to appreciate is what's making the world better. I guess that's why you're on the grumpy side? Hahahaha! :)


Is it really negativity to call this ugly?

https://ibb.co/pfJSdxn


Yeah, I think it is. Whether it's ugly or not is subjective, that's surely a negative judgement.

But the point is the overall comment in the bad comments ones is vastly negative. It's just such a negative ugly attitude. You don't want to be around that: it's like being around an abusive person, a bully, someone who puts you down, mocks you, belittles you, diminishes you.

Don't you see that kind of thing as something wrong, and to be avoided? That's what I'm against here. When I see that attitude in comments: I just think it's gratuitous negativity, there's no need for it.

Not that it matters (as it should be obvious morally/ethically from a human point of view) but it's against the guidelines for Show too: https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html When something isn't good, you needn't pretend that it is, but don't be gratuitously negative.


>>that's surely a negative judgement.

And like..........maybe I'm being weird, but........what's wrong with that?

>>Don't you see that kind of thing as something wrong, and to be avoided?

No, I always saw HN as a community where you can freely(but politely) express your views and discuss them. It would never occur to me that calling some wall art ugly could be compared to being around an abusive person.

>>When something isn't good, you needn't pretend that it is, but don't be gratuitously negative.

Calling a painting ugly is hardly "gratuiously negative". Maybe it's a bit too direct, but it's not a "show HN" post, I'm not taking anyone down, we're discussing art left by someone who left this in their apartment and passed away - I don't think it should bother anyone any more than calling Picasso or Rembrant's art "ugly". We disagree of course, but again, the comparison to being near an abusive person seems uncalled for.

>>But the point is the overall comment in the bad comments ones is vastly negative.

The overall point was - how is being a hoarder, making a bunch of art in your apartment that they don't even show anyone ever, "making the world a batter place" - someone else said it's inspirational, I don't really see how either but at least I now know there is a different point of view.


It's like too negative. It's like abusive. You when you have something positive and celebratory and happy, and you have all these people come trying to hate on that. That's what I'm seeing there, that's what I don't like. Gratuitous, abusive negativity that is jealous of happiness and ends up even derailing good discussion. Hahaah! :)




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