Good for them. We need a counterbalance to the political chaos being stoked by white supremacists and the CIA. We live in a post-truth democracy, let the people decide whose lies to believe!
Now's the time when the best minds of HN need to get busy making bots that fill social media with RATIONAL DEBATE, moderate views, and links to valid news sources. Fight fire with fire!
The point is that every current AI chatbot including ChatGPT will write about liberal topics as if they are good and about conservative topics as if they are neutral, or they will refuse to discuss conservative topics. In some cases the chatbots will lie about conservative topics, as in intentionally tell known untruths. This has been independently verified thousands of times by thousands of different people. It is a fact.
This conversation was about de-polarizing, not bias.
However, please share an example. I get the feeling that those examples will simply be ChatGPT not providing confirmation of the user's bias which I admit is very annoying.
Why do you feel qualified to say, in a single statement, that you request evidence of something and that you simultaneously "have a feeling" about it? No offense but your "feeling" is worthless - you admit as much when you say that you have no evidence. Your "feeling" is born out of ignorance. Maybe admit that you have no idea and leave it at that.
In an environment based on the analysis of evidence, I would be reluctant to share information with you, since your behavior has indicated that you prejudge evidence before you've seen it.
We can look at a ChatGPT exchange screenshot, then try to reproduce it.. then discuss what we see. It's OK if we don't agree on the results.
My "feeling" is that everyone gets their feelings hurt, myself included, when a GPT doesn't give answers aligned with their personal biases... then we call the GPT "biased." That's how I felt about it, when I first experienced it.
But if you don't share the evidence, there can be no discussion.
> The report described several Chinese government-linked accounts — sometimes referred to as "Spamoflage" — pretending to be avid Republicans and fans of former President Donald Trump's reelection campaign, with some accusing Democratic President Joe Biden of being a "Satanist pedophile."
Huh? Seems absurd that China would want another term of the president that implemented a raft of import tariffs and has been expressly anti-China
After implementing import tariffs, a country should be using that advantage in order to build up its own manufacturing capabilities. The United States does not seem to be doing that particularly well. Maybe China believes that the US is so dysfunctional and so dependent on Chinese imports that tariffs would not make any difference.
The US and its western allies are actively vying to keep advanced chip fab technology out of China, and restricting GPUs that can be sold to them. At the same time there's heavy domestic investment in new US fabs of a scale not seen for decades.
US and western alies cant even get control over gas and oil refinery tech exports to Russia after 2 years of full scale war and 12 years of sanctions. And all kind of dual-use nearly military tech being imported to Russia through other contries such as UAE, Turkey, etc.
And China is much more resourceful and GPUs are not 100-ton refinery equipment or heavy machinery.
The ASML lithography machines are only built by ASML. They are insanely complex and would be damn hard to replicate. Especially when they can't just obtain one and pull it apart. Fab equipment is different in nature to drones and natural resources which are in abundant supply.
China's spun up their own GPU research and manufacturing to compete against NVIDIA. Not just in response to recent tariffs, but part of a long term strategy of having no dependencies on foreign nations.
It was a big deal when Huawei reentered the phone market in 2019 using Chinese chips after international sanctions.
China has been working on it for decades. China already has plenty of lower technology Fab operations, and have invested into ramping up the quality.
Just because China has not been competitive at the highest end of that chip fabrication does not mean that they have not been competitive at chip fabrication as a whole. Tons of semiconductors are manufactured in China. Not advanced gpus, no, but there is a decent chance that your microwave contains semiconductor chips built in China.
Trump's tariffs hurt the US more than they did China, and his belligerence and instability made China look stable and reasonable in comparison. Why wouldn't they want more of that?
> Trump's tariffs hurt the US more than they did China, and his belligerence and instability made China look stable and reasonable in comparison. Why wouldn't they want more of that?
Evidence, and not an opinion piece that only looks at US data but also includes effects on Chinese economy.
You certainly cannot make this claim from the data I've seen available to the public. So I think you're lying. Why lie?
The old "ostrich" / passive approach you advocate also prevents the recognition source of disruption. Indecisiveness and inaction to non-kintetic warfare by nation state actors and sponsors of internal "firebrands" isn't something to take lightly, "I suppose".
I put this article squarely in the "no way to know what's real" category. It would be naive in 2024 to assume that foreign powers do not attempt to influence outcomes and particularly that they would not attempt to do so through various online outlets. On the other hand, labeling one's political enemies as foreign disinformation seems like a cheap way to delegitimize the other side.
