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> I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe

Haha wow. I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon). You ought to play the Lotto.

> Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator.

"A lot" is drastically overstating the case. And in many ways Designer is leagues better.

But it's all kinda moot - fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly.




I was a photographer until late last year and there were many weeks I spent 40 hours+ in Photoshop and I don’t remember a single crash.

I’m on Windows, for what it’s worth.


Perhaps Adobe only crashes when it can smell fear... Like printers.

Really though, Photoshop and Illustrator both got buggy on me on a weekly/near daily basis. I used them all for decades. It feels like they were stable for a few years around like 1999-2001.


Somewhat off topic, but your comment made me literally laugh out loud in real life. I am working on a receipt printer right now, and it can absolutely smell fear. Its favorite thing to do right now is to use its incredible power of speed to print half my roll of receipt tape with random gibberish in the several seconds it takes me to pull the power cable. I haven't yet let it run to completion to see if it will eat the entire roll of tape, but I suspect it would.


> * I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon).*

Believe what you will.

Their software used to crash a lot more for me 5-10 years ago but these days it's pretty solid in this regard.

It used to feel super bloated too but since Apple Silicon it's been working great in terms of perf for me.

> And in many ways Designer is leagues better.

In what ways?

Genuinely interested. I've been using vector graphics software since Corel Draw 4 and Illustrator still seems the gold standard. Figma is great for UI design but it's useless for anything else.

I do think Photo is a lot more usable than Designer and I could see myself using that instead of Photoshop.

> fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly

Trust me, I too wish there was a good alternative to Adobe. I hope with Canva's money they will be able to improve Affinity's products.


I suspect you are very experienced Illustrator and used to its ways and not that experienced Photoshop user. Because Photoshop people around in coments say that Photo is trash but Designer is good.

I think its all inertia to learn new things. Adobe soft has so many wierd things that we got so used to that it gets hard to do it otherwise.


I've used both Illustrator and Photoshop for over 20 years.

Before that I was on the Corel suite using Draw and PhotoPaint since the mid 90s.


> In what ways?

Off the top of my head...

Look and feel is a big one. It feels more responsive, and far less bloated.

The Export Persona smokes Illustrator's slices or whatever.

It handles symbols far more smoothly, and I like the way masks work better.

It's better integrated into Publisher, compared to Illustrator/InDesign. Publisher is awesome, and basically has Designer built in.

Working with non-square grids is sooooo much easier.

There's no Creative Cloud malware fouling up my computer, soaking up CPU and memory and storage and spitting pop-ups in my face for no damn reason.

... There are things I miss - vector brushes, and the Transformation tools. But they can usually be worked around. The feeling of being respected by the company more than makes up for those deficits though.

...Which is probably about to change :(




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