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gestures broadly at fleet of Falcon 9 vehicles flight proven and delivering payloads to orbit cheaper than any other launch provider, with capabilities unmatched by nation states

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/spacex-launches-its-fl...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/02/spacexs-falcon-9-roc...

So many flavors to pick from and you had to pick salty. Unfortunate. Regardless of the methods, the outcomes are clear. Starship will succeed, if only because of the collective talent of the org persisting.



https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39726545 (“HN: After Thursday’s flight, Starship is already the most revolutionary rocket ever built”)

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/03/thursdays-starship-fli...


How do you explain Falcon 9's low development cost, low flight/operations cost, and demonstrated reliability history, when compared with similarly capable launch platforms?

And given that Starship is being developed in a similar manner to F9 (iterate quickly, big explosions in prototypes is a great learning experience), what in particular makes you think the process will go wildly different to the way F9 did?


Hate to break it to you, but just about every single early employee (except Elon) had a decade+ of experience in aerospace.


Falcon 9 Block 5 has flown 253 times without a single failure.


> failing their way to success

Sometimes that's a pretty valid way to operate. Seems to have worked out super well for SpaceX so far. ;)


OK, let's talk line that.

F-35 was built by a bunch of kids who knew nothing about building fighter jets. They somehow limped towards international success by burning a ton of money, and by spending 17 years before they produced acceptable aircraft. What a bunch of clueless amateurs!

No matter how you look at it, certain things are hard.


If you want to be sceptical about SpaceX, why focus on the one thing they've proven they are good at? If Starship fails I have a hunch it will be for reasons not directly related to engineering, like unstable billionaire tantrums or demand not materializing in time, or simply politics.


Incinerating what money? They are no longer raising funds for SpaceX in funding rounds -- just doing funding rounds for employee liquidity events.


Where are the real engineers? Boeing?




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