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>Would love to see a statistic on what percentage of Shonen Jump's readers are 60 year old ladies.

This a very strange desire considering the magazine literally have word "shonen" in its title.

You do realize that they also have shojo and josei manga?

>My understanding is shallow because the subject is not deep.

Maybe you should do at least scratch the surface? https://www.animemangastudies.com/search-results/?Title=wome...




> have word "shonen" in its title.

Right, meaning boy. Which I originally stated as not being a deep topic. So why try to pretend Shonen Jump is this progressive brand for universal audiences. Doing mental gymnastics to twist the meaning of “boy” to mean this inclusive theme of victory for all.

> shojo and josei

But, as with many things Japanese, the boys and men take first precedence. Is this not indicative of the male patriarchy? Why not name It Shojo Jump then? Does that make you uncomfortable? Or do you have some denialist answer about how naming it “Shojo Jump” would be awkward or “strange” in the Japanese language? If that’s strange, then it suggests to me the male patriarchy is so deeply institutionalized and embedded that you can’t possibly reason outside of it

Thank you for mansplaining the existence of Japanese feminist studies. Can you please mansplain why “women’s colleges” exist in Japan? And why feminist studies are almost always resigned to these institutions. To most Americans, that would be a weird and ironic concept.

You think asking whether any 60 year old women are actually readers is a “strange question”? Why? Because the answer is a statistically low number? Me too.

You’re agreeing and confirming my very points. Maybe you can’t pickup on the sarcasm and irony here.


> Right, meaning boy. Which I originally stated as not being a deep topic. So why try to pretend Shonen Jump is this progressive brand for universal audiences. Doing mental gymnastics to twist the meaning of “boy” to mean this inclusive theme of victory for all.

OK, now do Shonen Knife.


People are using “allowlist” and “denylist” now even though the original words didn’t necessarily have racial connotations.


>Doing mental gymnastics

You are the only person here doing this. This is a magazine targeted at male audience and every person in this thread was telling you this. Does this mean girls don't read Naruto or One Piece? Of course not. This does not mean SJ is trying to be proggressive. And there is no reason for it to trying being one.

>But, as with many things Japanese, the boys and men take first precedence.

You might want to read about economy and markets. The best selling shojo magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_manga_magazin...) has numbers 8 times less then best selling shonen magazine. Which one will you be invesing in?

>Is this not indicative of the male patriarchy?

No, it is not.

The fact that SJ sells 8 times more than Ciao indicates that boys (and some percent of girls) tend to spend more on manga with a certain set of traints.

>Why not name It Shojo Jump then? Does that make you uncomfortable?

No, it does not make me uncomfortable, it's just stupid.

You can name it "for girs and boys" or "for teens" - that would be completely ok with me personally and with anyone else.

>Can you please mansplain why “women’s colleges” exist in Japan?

I wasn't mansplaining anything. It is unfortunate that you see it this way but that's your problem, not mine.

As for the "why" - I'm not a culturologist to give you and aducated opinion on the topic (neither I'm a japanese, just to be clear), but as as I know many countries (including the US) have boys-only and girls-only schools\colleges etc.

>And why feminist studies are almost always resigned to these institutions.

If you give a few examples I can talk to an old friend on my. He is anthropologist in the University of Toronto. This is not his field, but maybe he can help finding someone with expertise in this question. _If_ you are actually interensted.

>You think asking whether any 60 year old women are actually readers

Of this specific mangazine, yes. Older women can read whatever they prefer, not questioin here. I just doubt that the % of them reading something like One Piece is very low.

>You’re agreeing and confirming my very points.

No I'm not. That's just your complacency.




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