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There was practically no debate this time. Not because everyone was on board, but because any debate was basically suppressed.

There was some debate in the past couple of decades however.




We have representative democracy in Sweden and something like 88% of representatives wanted Sweden to join NATO. There were debates but it gets a bit pointless when such a huge majority agree on it.

In what forum would you want to see more debates on the topic? Hearing a debate between two guys who wants the same thing seems pointless.


There was no debate because everyone was on board. I'm so sick and tired about people lying about this online. There was an election! And many, many polls! ALL OF THEM SHOWED LIKE 80% SUPPORT!

But the anti-Nato people are butthurt and feel the need to rewrite history to foreigners.

Din jävla fjant.


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> Random polls, be they online or via phone, are basically worthless; you know that as well as I.

This claim is so easy to debunk that I doubt you are arguing in good faith.


"NATO standards" is a meaningless technicality. NATO is more like a political suicide pact. The parade troops are just a side show. There is no public meta-discussion about the issue at all except among greens and socialists.

Try talking to some good friends about the prospect of actually fighting in a war. The difference between the public facade of the elite pretending stuff and my "experienced reality" is psychosis inducing. The cheering in this thread is really suspicious. It's one of those things that only seems to exist on the internets.

I got this feeling that the elite just waited for the right moment to push for joining NATO. They have been wanting this for a long time.


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Do you think there is a general "pro-war psyops" ongoing or are these internet people real? I don't get where they all came from. Like, from nowhere. I mean, most of the gov. parties want to send weapons to Netanyahu. It is like they pretended to not be insane to suddenly rip their shirts off. And all these people with insane ideas on the internet. But I don't see almost any around me.




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