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Except that link is to a story with a lot of garbage in it.


Do you have other insight? A counterpoint? Anecdote that supports a different narrative? Anything, at all, that would contribute to the conversation and support your "garbage" comment?


It's not accurate as I said I other comment. Software is tested not just on the machine nowadays. I think you'll find most asml employees hesitant to share more, I'm not sure what I can say either.


Hcfman works at ASML and I (who wrote the comment back in 2018) don’t. Fair chance he knows what he’s talking about.


Okay I'll bite. Usually with large and important companies like ASML one has to be very careful with what you say. Usually it's better to say nothing at all. This time I felt I had to jump in and defend ASML as it was painting rather a misrepresentational picture.

First, I'd like to say that skrebbel has reacted very gentlemanly to my comment considering how hard hitting it was, my complements to his balance in this. I can only assume he may possibly have been burnt on something he put a lot of effort into, I can relate to that. I've been there too.

But ASML is a very large company and parts of it that I have worked with have very impressive testing capability with a large farm of servers testing all code against regression and progression before any integration with release code. I'm happy to say that I've personally improved parts of this farm in both quality and performance of the testing environment (even though I wasn't part of that group).

The challenge is to be able to maintain and improve upon that when the software is so huge and growing. I poke and push at every opportunity I can. I'm sure that people in the company will recognise this :)

On a personal note and I think a lot of people here can relate to this, you can do a lot for quality simply by recognising the efforts of people correctly, the improvement in motivation translates to improvements in quality. In that area I think things are indeed changing since 2018. Just last week I was very pleasantly surprised to see in a group close to mine the announcement of a new program to do just that. To recognise the efforts of people that go the extra mile in both effort and innovation. Very nice to see.

Now it's best for me to shutup.


I totally get that you need to be careful about what you say, and I especially appreciate you taking some extra time to write this out. This comment is 1000x more interesting than "that story has a lot of garbage".


Thank you kindly!

AND... now that have your attention. Perhaps I can implore upon the readers here to help me get my new project into the main discussion page of hacker news? Cheeky bastard that I am :)

It's really interesting. It's a sound localization project that combines microsecond Raspberry Pi system clock with sound recording to do really accurate Raspberry Pi based sound localization. I've been trying to get it to the main discussion on hacker news for ages with no success.

Links here:

https://hackaday.com/2023/12/30/localizing-fireworks-launche...

https://medium.com/@kim_94237/tdoa-sound-localization-with-t...

https://github.com/hcfman/sbts-aru


> my complements to his balance in this

Appreciate it :) I don't take a lot of pride in HN comments and definitely not in ones that I wrote 6 years ago :-)

Appreciate the insights, very cool to see how good it's all getting.




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