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It should be illegal for them to call it full self drive. It's 100% false advertising not to mention the 'danger' that people will assume it is what it says it is.



It should be illegal for them to call it even 1% self driving. Because it is no more than 0% self driving. There is no mode of operation in any Tesla where the human is ever, at any moment, not responsible for safely navigating the vehicle.


Like "full self-driving" but where you're fully driving yourself? I had a '53 Studebaker with that feature.

(this is a lie; never share car ownership details online, banks still don't know that we drive them in public)


It is in California, but it hasn't been enforced yet: https://www.autobodynews.com/news/tesla-not-allowed-to-call-...


It probably is illegal...


It might be legal, but in court what you advertise the car can do generally has high weight than what you put in the warning documentation. Thus Tesla is stupid for making any such claims as now they have admitted in court they think their car is fully self driving which means the car should be liable. Even if Tesla can prove that the car was under manual control the courts are still justified for finding Tesla for anything that happens as they have clearly claimed the car is self driving.


What absurd logical leaps. If this is so clearly the case, then I don't know why every single law firm in the country isn't scrambling to sue Tesla via a class-action right this minute.


Can you bring this up to class action? I'd expect this to more be relevant when the family of someone killed wants to sue. Or more likely the insurance company who just had to pay out some $$$ that they want to recover.


Don't arbitration agreements signed by most buyers the reason we'll never see any class actions here?


Most people have not bought a Tesla and so arbitration will not apply. Any by stander in a situation has standing to sue Tesla.

Though that doesn't mean they will. Just because you can sue doesn't mean it is worth it.


I agree. I just can't understand why the FTC hasn't done anything.


Because it's not profitable, and the FTC actually doesn't care when mega-billionaires break the law for profit.


... and the fines have been factored into the bottom line.




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